mitchejw wrote:

mitchejw wrote:

Homeless people shouldn't vote...you're right...

Also, I don't think anyone here is yelling race....the article points out these people who are removed from the roll call list were disproportionately black. It's a fact....not a talking point.

Also, I have to know... you have no comment on the Trump voter voted twice for Trump?

You guys keep telling me voter fraud doesn't happen. I can cite 20 instances of fraud the past few years. It's always handwaived as an anomaly. There are no checks in place to validate the integrity of the system. 

Put them in jail. But don't pretend it's republicans overwhelmingly cooking the books. Felons, illegals, etc have no right to vote. But I guess it's ok that ACORN like groups register dead people in urban areas that vote overwhelming democratic.

Require a state ID and this shit goes away.

Randall Flagg wrote:

slcpunk wrote:

Speaking of voter suppression based on race, this today:

Federal Judge Says North Carolina Must Restore Voter Registrations Of Those Removed From Rolls
The North Carolina NAACP sued the state on Monday, claiming a purge targeted black voters.

WASHINGTON ? County election boards in North Carolina must restore the registrations of voters removed from the polls, U.S. District Judge Loretta Biggs ordered on Friday.

The order follows an emergency hearing held on Wednesday to address allegations that election officials in Beaufort, Moore and Cumberland counties had removed voters from the rolls due to campaign mailers that were returned as undeliverable.

The North Carolina NAACP sued the state on Monday, claiming the purge targeted black voters. The Justice Department submitted a statement of interest in the lawsuit on Monday night supporting the assertion that removing voters from the rolls en masse is a violation of the National Voter Registration Act.

Biggs, who during the hearing called the state’s process for removing voters’ names “insane,” said in her ruling that the NC NAACP had proved that names were unfairly removed.

“The Court finds that a narrowly tailored injunction is warranted to ensure that eligible voters are not deprived of their right to participate in the upcoming election due to a flawed process engaged in by the State and County Boards, which this Court has determined likely violates the NVRA,” Biggs said in her decision.

“Voter enfranchisement cannot be sacrificed when citizens through no fault of their own have been removed from the voter rolls,” she added.

Rev. William Barber, the president of the NC NAACP, said the court ruled against “surgical, intention racism.”

“Racism is about policy,” Barber said on a call with reporters. “It’s not just about feelings, it’s not just about language. It’s when you use your power ? or attempt to use your power ? to undermine the rights of people and you target it toward African-Americans.”

The civil rights group argues that these cancellations are an attempt by the Republican Party to suppress the black vote, which is lower this year than it was in 2012.

At least 5,600 registrations have been removed in Cumberland County for varying reasons since 2014, while 790 and 63 were removed in Moore and Beaufort counties, respectively.

At least 3,500 voters were removed in the past 90 days, according to Penda Hair, an attorney representing the NAACP. The cancellations could have cost Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton the election, since most of the voters are black and tend to lean Democrat.

It’s still unclear whether or not those people will be able to vote on Election Day.

State law mandates that voters within any given county can challenge the eligibility of another voter in that county up to 25 days before the election.

But the National Voter Registration Act says states can only cancel registrations if a voter provides written notice of a change in address or if a voter does not respond to a notice for two election cycles and fails to vote for two federal election cycles. States also cannot remove voters from the rolls 90 days or less before a federal election.

“What they’re doing is race-driven. It’s immoral, illegal and it is unconstitutional. The courts have spoken,” Barber said. “We’ve not seen this kind of intentional suppression since the days of Jim Crow.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nor … 0b02ca2471

You guys love screaming race, and I'm not saying I agree 100% with what the counties did, but if you're not living at your registered address, you don't vote in that precinct. You guys refuse the most basic of verification to ensure someone is who they say they are, but demand every other aspect of our lives be verified by the government. Want to fish, need a license. Want to drive, take the $200 course and provide 20 documents. Want a gun, undergo a federal background check you have to pay for. But fuck having the slightest sanity check that prevents liberal groups from rounding up the homeless and offering a free donut if you check the block with a (D) next to it.

Homeless people shouldn't vote...you're right...

Also, I don't think anyone here is yelling race....the article points out these people who are removed from the roll call list were disproportionately black. It's a fact....not a talking point.

slcpunk wrote:

Speaking of voter suppression based on race, this today:

Federal Judge Says North Carolina Must Restore Voter Registrations Of Those Removed From Rolls
The North Carolina NAACP sued the state on Monday, claiming a purge targeted black voters.

WASHINGTON ? County election boards in North Carolina must restore the registrations of voters removed from the polls, U.S. District Judge Loretta Biggs ordered on Friday.

The order follows an emergency hearing held on Wednesday to address allegations that election officials in Beaufort, Moore and Cumberland counties had removed voters from the rolls due to campaign mailers that were returned as undeliverable.

The North Carolina NAACP sued the state on Monday, claiming the purge targeted black voters. The Justice Department submitted a statement of interest in the lawsuit on Monday night supporting the assertion that removing voters from the rolls en masse is a violation of the National Voter Registration Act.

Biggs, who during the hearing called the state’s process for removing voters’ names “insane,” said in her ruling that the NC NAACP had proved that names were unfairly removed.

“The Court finds that a narrowly tailored injunction is warranted to ensure that eligible voters are not deprived of their right to participate in the upcoming election due to a flawed process engaged in by the State and County Boards, which this Court has determined likely violates the NVRA,” Biggs said in her decision.

“Voter enfranchisement cannot be sacrificed when citizens through no fault of their own have been removed from the voter rolls,” she added.

Rev. William Barber, the president of the NC NAACP, said the court ruled against “surgical, intention racism.”

“Racism is about policy,” Barber said on a call with reporters. “It’s not just about feelings, it’s not just about language. It’s when you use your power ? or attempt to use your power ? to undermine the rights of people and you target it toward African-Americans.”

The civil rights group argues that these cancellations are an attempt by the Republican Party to suppress the black vote, which is lower this year than it was in 2012.

At least 5,600 registrations have been removed in Cumberland County for varying reasons since 2014, while 790 and 63 were removed in Moore and Beaufort counties, respectively.

At least 3,500 voters were removed in the past 90 days, according to Penda Hair, an attorney representing the NAACP. The cancellations could have cost Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton the election, since most of the voters are black and tend to lean Democrat.

It’s still unclear whether or not those people will be able to vote on Election Day.

State law mandates that voters within any given county can challenge the eligibility of another voter in that county up to 25 days before the election.

But the National Voter Registration Act says states can only cancel registrations if a voter provides written notice of a change in address or if a voter does not respond to a notice for two election cycles and fails to vote for two federal election cycles. States also cannot remove voters from the rolls 90 days or less before a federal election.

“What they’re doing is race-driven. It’s immoral, illegal and it is unconstitutional. The courts have spoken,” Barber said. “We’ve not seen this kind of intentional suppression since the days of Jim Crow.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nor … 0b02ca2471

You guys love screaming race, and I'm not saying I agree 100% with what the counties did, but if you're not living at your registered address, you don't vote in that precinct. You guys refuse the most basic of verification to ensure someone is who they say they are, but demand every other aspect of our lives be verified by the government. Want to fish, need a license. Want to drive, take the $200 course and provide 20 documents. Want a gun, undergo a federal background check you have to pay for. But fuck having the slightest sanity check that prevents liberal groups from rounding up the homeless and offering a free donut if you check the block with a (D) next to it.

Smoking Guns wrote:

slcpunk wrote:

Who cares.

The fact remains that the GOP work tirelessly to make it more difficult to vote under the guise of "voter fraud." The reality is that it's virtually non existent. It's a non issue.

Although so far in this election there has been one arrest for voter fraud, who turned out to be a Trump supporter.

The blacks just told you, they all carry ID and they don't mind showing it to vote while you and your people keep telling us that blacks are too dumb, too poor, and too unorganized to have an ID, use the Internet, or travel to a polling station. There isn't some "ID" crisis in the US like the liberals make it out to be.

That still doesn't speak to the heart of the purpose of all of these voter IDs and other crap. If there was no problem to begin with then why was the solution ever proposed?

I think it's pretty obvious what the purpose of a voter ID is. And it has nothing to do with fraud.