sandman wrote:

can anyone point me to a thread that addresses the financials of the band? or provide the info here? i am looking for the following:

1. who owns their back catalog?
1A. if someone asks about using a song in a movie/commercial/etc., who has final say?
2. was there an equal split of their profits back in the day? (i thought i read that Axl got 40% based on songs written or something.)
3. Was the original deal with Geffen much better than the typical deal? and if so, does Axl deserve credit for that?

1. who owns their back catalog?
Axl, Slash and Duff aka Guns N' Roses Music. Axl reportedly sold his part on the publishing earnings to Sanctuary but kept intelectual property (see 1A)
1A. if someone asks about using a song in a movie/commercial/etc., who has final say?
Guns N' Roses Music (see 1), and it needs to be approved by all three members.
2. was there an equal split of their profits back in the day? (i thought i read that Axl got 40% based on songs written or something.)
Actual figures changed album after album, but Axl had nearly 40%, I don't remeber the exact amount for each of them.
3. Was the original deal with Geffen much better than the typical deal? and if so, does Axl deserve credit for that?
According to Duff's book, the deal was pretty usual, but they had a lot of lawyers looking into the contract for them - an initiative by Axl, yes - that prevented them from losing the rights to the songs to the record company. Also, the deal was renegotiated after Appetite exploded, leading to LIES release. The deal was once again renegotiated for UYI, adding the infamous lines giving Axl the rights to the name. After Slash quit, deal was renegotiated and there has been several renegotiations since then.

sandman wrote:

If axl bitched about his band mates on twitter, i have a feeling everyone would have an issue with it.

I guess i'm just old school. I believe u have an issue with something, u talk to the responsible individual instead of bitching to others and having that person hear it second hand.

If this was a sports team and a player bitched about his teammates, he would face a shit storm and he would lose respect of his mates, the organization, and the fans.

I cant respect someone that breaks the code.

Maybe BBF's greatest pain is the guilt he feels being a whore and selling his soul for $$. He should form a true "band" where all members actually have a say in things.

It seems obvious that you've just got a problem with Ron in general. Seeing as Axl has had plenty of things to say in public about current and former band mates. On top of that I've heard of many, many professional athletes taking to facebook and Twitter to do exactly what you're describing. Then of course there's the examples of Tommy Stinson (a member of the same band as Ron) doing the same thing.

In any case, if you've got a problem with Ron or what he did feel free to make your case but please do it without direct insults. As I've pointed out in the this thread prior, Ron is a registered user here and we do not allow insults of members.

Maybe, but I would expect professional management of a band to act differently as well.  I'm embarrassed for all of them and have been for some time now, but it is what it is. 

I find it hard to believe anybody could be embarrassed by what BBF said and not be embarrassed that the one-time greatest band in the world has been reduced to what it is today...