Paxcow wrote:

here's the deal, axlin08; you talk too much. most of what you say is horseshit. someday you will learn that 95% of what you say is completely wrong. THAT is a fact!

Considering the fact, that everything I have stated about the album's release and GNR's activity has been proven correct by their own actions... umm it kind of is fact. The stuff about DJ is true too. He's an employee. Just cause i'm not licking his balls doesn't mean it's not true. And also remember, I was the same one with an OPEN MIND, and supported DJ's addition to the band, and wished him the best of luck, as well as praised his website over GNR's themselves.

As far as 95% of what I say being wrong... that may be true in the case of GNR's inner workings. But just because I might talk to Axl one day in depth (in theory), doesn't mean that Slash, Izzy, Duff, Steven, Matt, Gilby, etc. will all have different opinions.

Just because Axl has his side of things doesn't mean he's correct. Doesn't mean it's wrong. It doesn't mean anything. It just means he has an opinion like I have one. And this is coming from a recovering Axlite, to this day, still believes Axl's side of things 90% of the time.

But to sit back, and say i'm completely wrong about calling out Axl & GN'R on the BUSINESS side of things, and just acknowledge how FUCKING AWFUL the band has been run from top to bottom for nearly the last 20 years, is something i'm perfectly entitled to do, I am CORRECT, and frankly i'm stunned that anybody argues it. You have to be blind, and have knee pads on, not to see it how I do.

Granted, that's just another 'stank asshole opinion' of mine. I am a bit crazy seeing all this GN'R stuff as a clusterfuck, because it's been a ROUSING success story.

buzzsaw wrote:

Paxcow wrote:

here's the deal, axlin08; you talk too much. most of what you say is horseshit. someday you will learn that 95% of what you say is completely wrong. THAT is a fact!

If it's a FACT, prove it.  Otherwise shut your fake insider mouth until you can.

I couldn't agree more. Not to mention contributes NOTHING to discussion & debate, and never has. It's like having the Mysteron of mashed potatoes, and no gravy.

russtcb wrote:

I think one thing to remember in all of this is that buzz has always maintained that he didn't want to be right about this stuff. I remember before the album came out that he and I used to argue about it constantly. He'd tell me that he didn't think anything big was going to happen after release and I ofcourse thought he was wrong. The thing is, I'd do the same thing folks are doing now "HEY! You're not a real GNR fan!" "Why do you even come here if you don't want them to succeed!" etc, blah blah blah. Every time buzz would tell me that it was just his opinion and he'd love for GNR to be successful but that he just didn't see it happening.

Well here we are and he's been proven right. Furthermore, what's important to me is what he's not doing. He's not gloating and posting in threads saying "I told you so" or coming down on people who thought otherwise like myself. So a couple of people are admitting in public that they feel he was/is right and he's getting ridiculed for it??? Someone help me understand that.

I want GNR to tour, be successful, put more music out, etc. But the fact is that for whatever reason; they're not. Who's fault is that? Are you mad a buzz for predicting it? And if so, how and why? For fucks sake. Has anyone hear ever heard the term "Don't kill the messenger"??? I'm certainly not happy that buzz was/is right but I'm sure as fuck not angry at him about it! I'm angry at everyone from Axl on down for this ridiculous excuse of a release.

Exactly. I never once saw Buzz say I told 'ya so, and I myself have gloated about being right myself, because I can be egotistical. And Buzz DIDN'T do it, and the damn guy had the baseball sitting on a tee, of opportunity, to turn around and do it, and smash our faces in it, and he didn't. I'm just turning around, like an honest person would, and admit that everything I bashed Buzz for, gave him 'negative' karma for, I am admitting like a man, that he was RIGHT. He called it right, I called it wrong, and sadly it was because I had faith in Axl, that it would be done right, and it wasn't. It wasn't. Plain and simple. I don't hate Axl, nor to I hate Buzz, I like them both, but i'm just admitting that Axl struck out at the plate, and Buzz got a double, and an RBI. THAT DAY.

Doesn't mean either of them will forever be on a hot and/or cold streak forever. Axl is not always wrong, and Buzz is not always right, and vice versa for me too, or you, or anyone else who contributes here. I felt I owed Buzz that much, because I really took it to him back in the fall. I felt I was doing the right thing, and even still Buzz has not been an asshole about it, he's almost acted sympathetic to it, because he knows that the only reason I, or anyone else, defended Axl and Guns like that, is out of love, NOT HATE. Not negativity, but POSITIVITY.

At times reading this thread, i've lost a little respect for some of the people here, not because of the negativity, but some of the people that have BLATANTLY come across in this thread BUTTSORE that BUZZ WAS RIGHT, and are now attacking him for it.

We'll if you want to attack someone for how you feel, take a little look to the to the top of the page. Blame that mother fucker... don't blame Buzzsaw because he saw the ravine ahead, and an unfinished train track. Blame the person that didn't complete the fuckin' bridge.