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#41 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:mitchejw wrote:Yup...seeing it all over now...17 year old blue lives matter with suspected white supremacy ties from is it Antioch, IL?
Unfuckingbeliveable.
You are such a baby. I’m not your personal newsfeed.
Yea, I personally wouldn't take the Daily Beast as an authority on that. Especially when other more reputable sites make mention of his pro police comments and photos and nothing about white supremacy. I think you're reaching here. You certainly don't have enough to make that claim off a yahoo article referencing (without a link) a Daily Beast article.
Yea, I just went to the Daily Beast and they have one article with "Kyle Rittenhouse" in it, the same one on their front page. No mention of white supremacy in the article at all. I think this claim fell flat.
#42 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:Yup...seeing it all over now...17 year old blue lives matter with suspected white supremacy ties from is it Antioch, IL?
Unfuckingbeliveable.
I was gonna ask him to source it, then figured it wasn't worth it.
#43 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
Image of the 3rd person shot who survived. Interesting he had a handgun and was chasing someone he thought had just "murdered" someone. Makes you wonder if the 17 year old wasn't running from this guy and the others.
#44 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
Rocky wrote:misterID wrote:No.
You asked for a link but I got knocked off the net. Follow this guy https://mobile.twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11 he's in the middle of these riots. They followed the kid from before the violence until after. A Daily Caller reporter actually helped one of the guys who was shot.
Link is dead
Odd, it works for me.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RichieMcGinniss
This guy interviewed the n e before all of this. It's on his feed.
that link worked, thanks!
#45 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:IRISH OS1R1S wrote:Yeah there was some lobsided posts earlier on this. Funny when the guy was calling you out for now knowing the facts.
Truly is funny. Went from store owners protecting their businesses, to an innocent bystander getting chased down by a violent angry mob, to a 17 year old idiot shooting a guy in the head at point blank range, calling 911 to say "I just killed somebody", running away, bystanders chasing after him to ensure he doesn't escape and is charged, and the 17 year old idiot shooting another person and escaping.
Those ever moving goalposts eh.
Who is moving the goal post? Pa is making an argument no one made. He's still struggling to support his claim that the 17 year old initiated it. We have video evidence of self defense. I'll wait for the first incident before I declare him a murderer.
#46 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
Rocky wrote:PaSnow wrote:What do you think this commentary video shows? It doesn't show the 17 year old shooting the first person. Or if it does, not at the time stamp you linked or the previous 5 minutes. Do you have an actual link to the video that shows him murdering someone as you claimed?
He calls 911 and says "I just killed somebody". it's like 30 seconds into it, did you watch?
At 8:50 in your video the author says there is no video of what caused the people to chase him. Yes, he reported that he killed someone. Killing someone isn't murder. In the case of the video we see, it is clearly self defense. You have no idea what happened before he shot 2 people in self defense, and not only assume, but state as a fact he murdered someone before this. Please, just take a minute and ask yourself what you know, and what you want to be true.
#47 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Ok. So you guys have it wrong. the 17 year old MURDERED somebody. Then, the crowd chased him down to detain him for murder, then he shot somebody else to avoid detention and escaped.
Interesting.
No.
You asked for a link but I got knocked off the net. Follow this guy https://mobile.twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11 he's in the middle of these riots. They followed the kid from before the violence until after. A Daily Caller reporter actually helped one of the guys who was shot.
Link is dead
#48 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
Rocky wrote:PaSnow wrote:Ok. So you guys have it wrong. the 17 year old MURDERED somebody. Then, the crowd chased him down to detain him for murder, then he shot somebody else to avoid detention and escaped.
Interesting.
Do you have any evidence of this? That the 17 year old fired his weapon at someone unprovoked, equating murder.
What do you think this commentary video shows? It doesn't show the 17 year old shooting the first person. Or if it does, not at the time stamp you linked or the previous 5 minutes. Do you have an actual link to the video that shows him murdering someone as you claimed?
#49 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
IRISH OS1R1S wrote:PaSnow wrote:Ok. So you guys have it wrong. the 17 year old MURDERED somebody. Then, the crowd chased him down to detain him for murder, then he shot somebody else to avoid detention and escaped.
Interesting.
Yeah there was some lobsided posts earlier on this. Funny when the guy was calling you out for now knowing the facts.
Truly is funny. Went from store owners protecting their businesses, to an innocent bystander getting chased down by a violent angry mob, to a 17 year old idiot shooting a guy in the head at point blank range, calling 911 to say "I just killed somebody", running away, bystanders chasing after him to ensure he doesn't escape and is charged, and the 17 year old idiot shooting another person and escaping.
Like I said, you don't know what happened. Your list of what occurred is objectively false. There's no opinion here. You're just wrong. And you guys wonder why arguments get heated. Someone is posting objective falsehoods and you're attacking the credibility of someone who isn't, or if they are, not doing so intentionally.
#50 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 263 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Ok. So you guys have it wrong. the 17 year old MURDERED somebody. Then, the crowd chased him down to detain him for murder, then he shot somebody else to avoid detention and escaped.
Interesting.
Yeah there was some lobsided posts earlier on this. Funny when the guy was calling you out for now knowing the facts.
No, I'm still here and very aware of the facts. I find it unlikely the 17 year old picked up his rifle and randomly shot someone. That is murder. Some rioter assaulting him, and him firing his weapon in response/defense, is a totally different argument. Murder means something. Self-defense and manslaughter also have meanings. I'll wait for evidence of what occurred. We already know the other 2 shootings were justified. Normally armed people don't run away from unarmed people they want to kill.
