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#41 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 137 weeks ago

Link31 wrote:
metallex78 wrote:
Neemo wrote:

Is there anything that stands out as a "must hear"

It’s nice to hear Bad Apples live from Rio, without the radio broadcasters voice over it, that’s been floating around as a bootleg for decades. And also the Izzy sang songs are a must for me, even if he sounds pretty rough on them.

I’m still making my way through it all. It’s certainly a lot to digest.

Smoking Guns wrote:

Yes there are bunch of other live tracks on the individual remastered discs. Some from UK some from Paris too

Interesting. How would I get those extra tracks? Are the available to download anywhere?


They are all on iTunes/Apple Music. I assume Spotify too?

#42 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 137 weeks ago

otto wrote:
metallex78 wrote:
Neemo wrote:

Is there anything that stands out as a "must hear"

It’s nice to hear Bad Apples live from Rio, without the radio broadcasters voice over it, that’s been floating around as a bootleg for decades.

Wait, what? Is Rock In Rio 91 on the deluxe edition? I thought it was just Ritz & Vegas.


Yes there are bunch of other live tracks on the individual remastered discs. Some from UK some from Paris too

#43 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 137 weeks ago

This live shit is absolutely amazing. Brilliant actually.

#44 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 137 weeks ago

Don’t Cry just came on with Shannon Hoon, makes me want to cry. Hoon so high in the mix. Beautiful. So fucking cool.

#45 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 137 weeks ago

This shit is incredible. I am still on the Ritz… It is like they are still learning the shit in a way.. So damn cool.

#46 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 137 weeks ago

DeSantis is the man. Trump needs to go away.

#47 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 138 weeks ago

Blackstar wrote:

Axl originally wanted to record November Rain with real instruments, but said he didn't know how to work with an orchestra, so he opted to emulate it with the synths.

Axl: [Being asked if he'd really quit the band if November Rain wasn't done properly]: Well, it wasn’t necessarily quit the band. It was just, like, to do that song the way I wanted to do it. I knew that we were going to need a lot of freedom and a lot of time to learn how to do things that we didn’t know how to do, or I didn’t know how to do. I mean, there’s, like, 31 different string sections on there, and I had to do them on keyboards, because I knew I didn’t know how to communicate with an orchestra well enough. And just I knew years ago, in starting writing the song, that it was going to take a lot for us to pull it off the way I could hear it in my head, you know. And that’s just like, I knew that when I said I’d quit the business, it was because I knew that the only reason that I wouldn’t get this right is if I wasn’t allowed to. [Rockline, Nov. 27, 1991]

Axl: What was really wild about it was being just overwhelmed by the sounds and working with all these new sounds. I mean, I’m in a rock band where you just work with – most of the time Guns N’ Roses just works with guitars, drums, vocals, bass. But working with the strings, and flugelhorns, and certain bells –and “is it the right bell?” It was almost like it was magical. [...]  I realized I only had one week, and just no way I was gonna learn how to communicate with an orchestra. So we brought in, like, eight synthesizers. For eight hours I just sat there and played strings to November Rain over and over and over, and picked every single string sound to create my own 130 piece orchestra. We went through, like, three thousand sounds. We had to sit there and go, “Wait, is that one sound more real than that one?” [...] One of the reasons for having an orchestra in the video [was that] it was one of the only ways to actually get to be around an orchestra and see what that was like; to see what was like to hear an orchestra actually play something I had written on keyboards, and see how well it worked and talk with the orchestra a bit about that. It’s not something I wanted to hide from the public and act like I used real strings. I wanted to say, “No, we did this on synthesizers.” For me, putting the orchestra in the video, I don’t think it was faking anything, because they were really playing when they were there. The sound you’re hearing when you see the video is what I play, but when we did the video they were actually playing; and it was a way for me to be around an orchestra and see that, because it’s not like I have time or cash to just go and set up an orchestra somewhere. It has to be for something productive and this definitely was. [November Rain: Makin' F@*!ing Videos Part II, June 22, 1993]

So probably to him the song now sounds like it should always have, the way he had envisioned it originally.

But yes, it's a shame that the original becomes kind of "obsolete" with this release. I agree that it should have been remastered and included in the reissue, because Axl's really impressive work of creating that virtual orchestra with all those sounds is part of the story of the song and the product of his talent and creativity. And he hasn't really got enough credit for that (at least outside the hardcore fanbase), because most people never knew about it and thought it was a real orchestra like in the video.

Simply incredible.

#48 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 138 weeks ago

faldor wrote:

I didn’t realize all the orchestra music in the original was performed by Axl. Just assumed it was an actual orchestra like in the video. Pretty impressive.

https://loudwire.com/things-different-n … mber-rain/


No way you didn’t know this… what Axl did back in 1990/1991 was really impressive. Sounds fantastic.

#49 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 139 weeks ago

The economy and inflation followed by crime and schools are the biggest issues. Way on down the list is racial issues, gender equity stuff, and abortion.

#50 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 139 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

Shocking…not one mention of the attack on the speaker of the house, down playing of the roe v. Wade overturn by a bunch of middle age white men who don’t have children…

I think we should just stop having elections and let the mouth breathers in this thread decide things.

I wish i could remember the exact moment that i no longer considered any of you friends. But someone has to occasionally let you know when you’re head is too far up your own ass.

Something is up with that odd attack. They knew each other some how and the guy was living in a gay Pride BLM school bus or some shit. The attack is unacceptable but there is more to this story.

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