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#5011 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tobias vs. Slash » 924 weeks ago
from what i understand Axl left tobias in indiana...it wasnt until credit was given on BoB and Izzy left was the freindship rekindled...Huge was part of a band with Axl and Izzy before they left for LA....the subsequent exploits and rise to fame, i dont beleive, were experienced with tobias around...hell axl didnt even know his proper name in 2002
but your initial question is who had a greater creative influence on GnR? Slash man....no contest
Slash only wrote the guitar parts to just over 1/2 those songs... Playing another guys parts isn't being creative.
The guy who wrote them and played them the first time was.
AtariLegend wrote:Creativity is creating the music not playing it.
so do writing credits count or not?
If I learned to play "There Was A Time" today, would I get credits as a song writer. Anyway Slash is not credited for anything he didn't originally play on.
So yeah they count, but the argument we seem to be having here isn't about those songs.
^ And this is the last time I'm going to say guitar parts in this thread, while you "dick around".
#5012 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tobias vs. Slash » 924 weeks ago
It's typical of you Neemo to read one line in one of my posts, and ignore everything else.
#5013 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tobias vs. Slash » 924 weeks ago
Played the original/created the guitar parts. If we went by who has credit on a sleeve as the song writer... Axl would un-doubly be the greatest multi-instrumentalist of all time.
#5014 Re: The Sunset Strip » Favorite Guitar Solos » 924 weeks ago
Gilmour's finest moment & greatest haircut.
Not the greatest technical achievement of all time... but certainly hair-raising.
#5015 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tobias vs. Slash » 924 weeks ago
Wikipedia... But the "Hollywood Rose" stuff isn't really that relevant to my argument or anyone else's.
#5016 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tobias vs. Slash » 924 weeks ago
why are dont cry and november rain in the tobias category? also slash redid anything goes, shadow of your love, reckless life and back off bitch
fuck i could write a song and if slash played it then it would rock...but i wouldnt be crazy enough to consider myself to be a better song writer or musician than slash
Tobias played on the original demos, Slash did re-do it in his own style... but he was for the most part playing parts already created by some one else.
before cd tobias had little to no creative control over gnr.
Creativity is creating the music not playing it.
this argument is like the tommy is more gnr than duff cuz he's been int eh band for a longer tenure....
Tobias was involved before their even was a GNR.
#5017 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tobias vs. Slash » 924 weeks ago
Slash has a broader scope to work with simply because he is on every GNR track from 87-93. Taking away an album's worth of tracks doesn't tip the scales towards Tobias.
Let's See...
"Anything Goes"
"Reckless Life"
"Shadow Of Your Love"
"Don't Cry" ?
"Back Off Bitch"
"November Rain"
"Oh My God"
"Chinese Democracy"
"Better"
"Street of Dreams"
"If the World"
"There Was a Time"
"Catcher in the Rye"
"Riad N' The Bedouin's"
"I.R.S."
"Madagascar"
"Prostitute"
vs.
"Patience"
"Used to Love Her"
"One in a Million"
"Perfect Crime"
"You Ain't the First"
"Double Talkin' Jive"
"Garden of Eden"
"Don't Damn Me"
"Bad Apples"
"Dead Horse"
"Coma"
"Civil War"
"14 Years"
"Get in the Ring"
"Breakdown"
"Pretty Tied Up"
"Locomotive"
"So Fine"
"Estranged
"You Could Be Mine"
Taking away 12 songs + covers... And songs he didn't originally play on... And even leaving in some of my favourite songs.
I choose quality over quantity even if it means giving up "Estranged".
#5018 Re: The Sunset Strip » Oscars 2009 » 924 weeks ago
^ Is it true that Nolan didn't direct any of the actions scenes in it..?
#5019 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tobias vs. Slash » 924 weeks ago
Take away Chinese Democracy, there aint much for Paul to write home about.
Take away 14 songs, there aint much for Slash to write home about.
#5020 Re: The Sunset Strip » Oscars 2009 » 924 weeks ago
If you've seen "The Reader" you'll know it's a bit strange... "Kate Winslet" is obviously brilliant because the film is basically all about her, but that's it, it was frowned upon by quite a few critics as well.
