Shacklermyrye wrote:

Yeah thats right. It's thanks to you that we have much of the info we do.

"As far as the songs go: 'Oklahoma' was pretty much written by the time they got to the studio. Axl  wrote that with inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing (more as a tribute to those who died, if I'm not mistaken).(Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05).

It was inspired by a court date with ex-wife Erin Everly. ''I was sitting in litigation with my ex-wife,  and it was the day after the bombing,'' .'' (Axl Rolling Stone. 2000)  That was two days after Duff and Izzy recorded Toothpuller, Machine gun, down by the sea in April 95

“I was a staff engineer at Rumbo Recorders and was about to quit or lose my mind . I thought it was time to get what clients I had (practically none) and get out. The manager came to me and said Guns was coming in to do their next record and they had no producer or engineer and that needed someone with experience so I said "yes" and she also said they would be writing for two months and then recording for two months and they would be it (haha) seven months later. I bailed on good terms with Axl and the band but not with the studio”.(David Dominguez Sp1at)

“Most of the songs had working titles but I know that "Oklahoma" and "Ides of March" were songs that were almost complete.(David Dominguez Sp1at)

“Some were three seconds long, some were three minutes long. Sometimes it was just a guitar lick. ‘Oh, that’s cool.’ They were transferred to CD. Everything had an ID and a number, then the CDs were made for each member of the band. They could go, OK, on set four, CD three, idea 15, let’s do something with that.’ Then everybody would take their CD home, get the part and write something to that. It was intense.(David Dominguez Producer 2010.12.DD - What's On Dubai)

I believe the ID system is on the locker leak discs too. The Rebel is J587 278 for example, makes me wonder how many of those discs there were in total

Ahh, that's cool and quite detailed. It was such a long time ago now lol.

I was doing alot of promoting years ago, so it was a fun thing on the side. The promoter game was a stress so it was good to do something else. When promoting, you are putting your own money out there and you only break even if 90% of the tickets are sold, then you make a bit extra from merch and refreshments. Ticket master make more because they own the venues so it's hard to compete

One more thing on that subject (CITR-Checkmate clips)....

They realized that they were allowing too many people access to these clips to shop around for more tracks. Instead of acquiring more tracks under the table with these clips....they started getting leaked instead.

After that fiasco...they stopped using other people for this and kept it in their inner circle.

Shacklermyrye wrote:

https://we.tl/t-aJn0ZOt1mI i believe this is the cover for that tape. no atlas or prostitute

Then I was lied to! When did this emerge?

Keep in mind, the source of demos that contained "99 IRS, TWAT & Catcher" that leaked in 06 also apparently contained Prostitute, Atlas & Hard School. We eventually heard close enough equivalents to those in the 2019 leaks but strictly those versions never leaked. There are people who have had that version of Atlas since the 00s and they have posted among us for years. Others will have different versions of these tracks from various points in time.

Others may genuinely have a close to final mix that was rumored to exist for a 2010 release. Others may have equivalents of that which were earlier and some may have later.

I've been told by some that they have the album art and back cover of CD2 with the tracklist. No idea if that's true but apparently they got hold of it when MSL got his trove of documents.