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#541 Re: Guns N' Roses » Brain in Modern Drummer (May 2009) » 916 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:monkeychow wrote:That this band has nothing like the sales power of a giant like U2 does not mean it is not a viable entity. There are a ton of bands that sell less records than GNR just did, yet are considered as ongoing propositions in the industry.
Let me know exactly how much money these "ongoing propositions" are receiving for their "selling less records than GNR just did" and you'll have an answer. When you're done with that, let me know if there would even be a possibility for a next record if the label didn't release this one and the next one as Guns N' Roses.
Buzz..i'm not sure of the relevanceof what the band's personal cut of profits is, and that information isn't easily publicly availiable.
My point is that CD outsold a number of other bands 2008 releases, bands such as Avenged Sevenfold and Buckcherry. Would you consider those bands dead and finished now?
Sure..compared to massive acts like U2, or like the historical GNR, then the numbers arn't good, but my point is these numbers are plenty enough to justifty future endevours.
You are accusing me and others of being a crazed fan boy. But this has nothing to do with my personal like of the band. I told you GNR sold #15 highest on the worldwide 2008 charts and you tell me that's not enough for future interest? It could be Billy Ray Cyrus or my Grandma who sold #15 and some record companies will be interested in the future. It's a crap result if you want to be the biggest band in the world, but if you want to be a viable band in the music industry it's more than enough. How could it not be? If 15th highest isn't what is? Only the top 10 bestsellers world wide get to make another album???
I have no problem with you being realist about certain issues and fighting against the fan-boy mentality that thinks axl is god come to save us. But in all fairness businesswise....this album wasn't the monster some hoped...but it's moved enough units to easily justify future albums.
The name issue you allude to doesn't seem relevant to me, other than it's another reason record companies will show continued interest, as a certain amount of sales would come from the name alone.
Wait Avenged Sevenfold? All they released was a b-sides album...Of course that didn't sell much.
#542 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Alternative Album Artwork discovered? » 916 weeks ago
I like that...
#543 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nascar Commerial last night » 917 weeks ago
What other commercials have they been using G&R songs for????
Harley
Burnout
GTA San Andreas
Just to name a few...
#544 Re: The Sunset Strip » Mastodon's newest album » 917 weeks ago
Oblivion has one hell of a catchy chorus. I'm hearing that damn thing even in my sleep 
#545 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nascar Commerial last night » 917 weeks ago
All I was saying is a well known song from G&R was used for a commerical that is sort of a promotion for the up and coming G&R tour. I guess they could of used a song from CD which would of been great. But perhaps they chose Welcome to the Jungle to remind the original fans of G&R that Axl and new company are on their way to promote a new cd. I think it was cool that they chose Welcome to the Jungle because it is a song that is already well known by the older fans and the newer fans. lolo .........Axl: Don't you try to stop us now.......because I just won't let you!!!!!!!
It was a Nascar commercial. But what I don't get is for the last ten years or maybe more I never saw any commercials using any G&R songs weather it was the original line-up; Illusion line-up or the current line up.
I know they have played a few in movies but never to promote a commercial for another corporation. lolo
Not really...They've been using well known GN'R songs for years even when the band had no hope of being active...
And not to be blunt but...Where the hell have you been in the last 10 years. They use GN'R songs for everything and anything...
#546 Re: The Garden » Am I Moving in on his Girl? » 917 weeks ago
The suicide thing may be a ploy, but he has had alot of issues with depression over the years, which makes me wonder if he really is or not. That's one of the things that drew them together is that they made each other happy and broke each other out of depression.
And I know you guys say just abandon them and leave them to their own demise, but I'm going to at least stick by her. I know this probably sounds more out of love, but that's the way I am with all my close friends. I'll give you a chance. Two or three even. But Don't think if things do go bad with them again I won't be reminding her on a daily basis how stupid she is for letting anyone treat her like that.
But I've been there for both through thick and thin, through depression and whatever else, so I'll stay there.
And as for the one's talking about alterior motives through all I've helped her through and all the advice I've given her I never, not once, encouraged or mentioned a breakup. If she mentioned it all I would tell her is "do what you feel you need to, whatever will make you a happier person"
And Saikan about the people changing thing. I've known him for about 10 years and he never was like this. I don't know what made him change like that. Maybe He's depressed or the anger from his mom leaving him finally got to him. I honestly don't know, but I think unless he gets help It'll only get worse. He has alot of anger issues. I don't see him as becoming physically abusive but f he does...then that's another story.
#547 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution Music Madness - Round 1, Battle 17 » 917 weeks ago
MegaDave all the way
#548 Re: The Garden » Am I Moving in on his Girl? » 917 weeks ago
Neemo I value your oppinion. Most of yours for that matter. You all have more expierence than me with this kinda stuff, and as I've said I had no intention of asking her out. We really were just hanging out. We've done that efore and we will continue hanging out no matter if he likes it or not, BUT i can say i have never or will never try and make any moves on her without at least first warning him or waiting until a good deal of time after they broke up, and then I'd still run it by him.
Yeah idk. I mean this whole thing is hard since none of you know the whole story but
1. I wasn't going to ask her out without checking with him first.
2. I love her enough that I can respect and move on with things if we are meant to be no more than friends
3. He's not mad at me anymore. He knows as well as me and her know that for now we're just good friends, and I would never betray him like that with her unless he was just being obssesive.
4. It's not awkward because both me and the girl and him have known each other for so long that at least for me and her we will always be friends.
5. idk. kinda confused. I'm gonna sleep on this and all I can say is that I support ger giving him a chance to change, and that hopefully he'll take it. If not, Hey he can't say noone told him he fucked up or didnt get another chance.
Maybe I can sleep on it and make all the stress go away 
#549 Re: The Garden » Am I Moving in on his Girl? » 917 weeks ago
suicidal over a chick as a teen...damn youthful emotions
i hope you and your freinds work it out bro, but as a teen? man you got your whole life to find the right girl and remember that longterm freindships are hard to come by, dont throw it away for a peice of pie
I'm tired of people saying that! Damn makes me think that you all think I just want to get in her pants. I'm not that insensitive. She's been through alot(Not gonna get in to that due to respect of her). And I have more respect for her than that. I'm not the type of guy that treats a woman as a piece of meat that can be thrown out after it's been used enough. Guys like that make me sick.
#550 Re: The Garden » Am I Moving in on his Girl? » 917 weeks ago
strat0 wrote:Yes but we're still teens. And like you said not all of them are like that, and I know for a fact she's not like that.
But she IS like that. If she wasn't like that she wouldn't have stayed with him as long as she did, nevermind giving him another chance. She's obviously someone with issues and you'd be better off with finding another girl.
No she's not. He hasn't always been an asshole. he used to be pretty kind and a cool guy. Then about 4 months ago he just kinda changed and became a real douche...
The reason they were together so long is because everything was good and they had a good relationship for over a year...
