mitchejw wrote:

Randall Flagg wrote:

CNN had an “analysis” earlier that was titled “When did you last think of Afghanistan?”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/opinions … index.html

This organization along with many others earned their audience preaching fear and telling them that Trump would bring WW3. He ended ISIS and withdrew the bulk of American forces, leaving small contingents as we have in Iraq since 2011. He got 3 or 4 Arab nations to recognize Israel. He held talks with Kim and got the guy to quit shooting rockets over Japan. No one is talking about North Korean nukes. He negotiated a deal to stop combat operations with the Taliban, and set a time table for a full withdrawal.

The American media can’t hide what a collosal fuck up this is, but they’re bending over themselves to make excuses on how they’re not looking like fools for soft balling and singing praise of this administration. Even going so far as to tell us Afghanistan and this colossal fuck up don’t really matter, cause it’s just Afghanistan. It was already fucked, so botching a withdrawal and putting 10k Americans at the direct mercy of the Taliban, who we just learned Biden is engaged in daily negotiations with, isn’t worth much consideration, culpability, and accountability.

After the scrutiny and tone directed at the former President for his international relations, you have to be a real sycophant to not find issue with the current President and the direct danger he’s directly responsible for putting 10k+ of his citizens in.

To say this isn’t important or worth caring about…. Jesus Christ.

So what are you saying? We shouldn't have left? This should go on in perpetuity?

No, what I'm saying is what you're doing cartwheels to avoid addressing.  We should have gotten out of Afghanistan.  We could have even done it on Biden's timeline.  He just should have had a plan to secure/force citizens out of the country before pulling back.  It's not a hard problem to identify, but you're here to stir the pot and play sycophant to Biden.  Biden and Biden alone was responsible for the timeline, resources, and coordination to extract Americans and the few Afghan's who qualified for a special visa for years of work collaborating with the US.  He didn't account for any of that, and now 10-15k Americans are in direct danger of being slaughtered by the Taliban. 

I understand you can't have an intelligent discussion, and refuse to acknowledge any of your dear leader's short comings.  But 15k Americans are trapped between Taliban forces only because of a decision and plan made by Joe Biden.  No one else.

Please just leave the conversation.  You're not contributing anything, admitted you don't care, and refuse to get informed.  Find a thread you can post in.  Or better just tweet.

misterID wrote:

I'm seeing a lot of Biden voters saying far more callous things. It's just the same talking points being said as what you're saying, and the stark turnaround from last year and what wasn't tolerated is just astounding. This isn't about the history of Afghanistan, the war, the last twenty years, or even refugees. There are over ten thousand Americans stranded behind enemy lines and we're not doing dick to get them. If you don't care about that, why do you care about anything?

CNN had an “analysis” earlier that was titled “When did you last think of Afghanistan?”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/opinions … index.html

This organization along with many others earned their audience preaching fear and telling them that Trump would bring WW3. He ended ISIS and withdrew the bulk of American forces, leaving small contingents as we have in Iraq since 2011. He got 3 or 4 Arab nations to recognize Israel. He held talks with Kim and got the guy to quit shooting rockets over Japan. No one is talking about North Korean nukes. He negotiated a deal to stop combat operations with the Taliban, and set a time table for a full withdrawal.

The American media can’t hide what a collosal fuck up this is, but they’re bending over themselves to make excuses on how they’re not looking like fools for soft balling and singing praise of this administration. Even going so far as to tell us Afghanistan and this colossal fuck up don’t really matter, cause it’s just Afghanistan. It was already fucked, so botching a withdrawal and putting 10k Americans at the direct mercy of the Taliban, who we just learned Biden is engaged in daily negotiations with, isn’t worth much consideration, culpability, and accountability.

After the scrutiny and tone directed at the former President for his international relations, you have to be a real sycophant to not find issue with the current President and the direct danger he’s directly responsible for putting 10k+ of his citizens in.

To say this isn’t important or worth caring about…. Jesus Christ.

mitchejw wrote:

Is it true that Trump released from captive, among many, the person that’s currently leading al-qaeda?

No, he killed the last leader of Al Qaeda: 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51409581

Maybe you meant, Taliban.  In which case, still no. 

Since you like politifact, here is an article that addresses your claim:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 … -role-rel/

Intelligence experts thought he was the most rational leader to lead the Taliban, and so he was released from containment in Pakistan by Pakistan.  And sure enough, he's now a senior leader in the Taliban.

Was that your attempt at a pot shot based off a far left site you read, or do you really not know how to google things?  I have a hunch it's the former with your inability to condemn Biden for any transgression and desire to blame Trump for every wrong, real or perceived. 

Is there another candidate you'd like to be leading the Taliban?  And you really should do some research before conflating the Taliban with Al Qaeda.