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#551 Re: The Sunset Strip » Alice in Chains - Jar of Flies » 304 weeks ago

James wrote:

I've "rediscovered" this album.  Other than No Excuses, hadn't heard this album in probably 20+ years.  This is reminding me of when I rediscovered Soundgarden's Down on the Upside in 2008. It was like having a new Soundgarden album to digest.

This is all killer, no filler. Rotten Apple is a great opener. Their albums always start off with a bang. How the hell did I forget Nutshell? Wow.

The real highlight for me is the instrumental Whale and Wasp. Mind blowing. It instantly became one of my favorite instrumentals. While it's perfect as is, I wish Layne had come up with lyrics for it.

I also listened to Sap again. I've always had the song Right Turn with Cornell. Incredible. I wish they had worked together more. Got Me Wrong instantly reminded me of the movie Clerks.

I had forgot about the hidden track.

God I miss those days. There was no reason for them to release a 4 song EP between Facelift and Dirt....they just did it.

Considering the cover is my avatar...happy to see this post!

I think Nutshell is the song that lives on in infamy...sounds like Layne’s eulogy to himself in retrospect.

Rotten Apple is a fascinating piece of music. No Excuses is a top 5 song all time for me.

All killer no filler? Swing on This sounds like a fun track to put on the end of an album for a band that never took themselves seriously, but you could end it with Don’t Follow and it’s perfect.

#552 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 304 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

Here's my current thinking:

1. Trump is a person with some character flaws and I do not agree with a number of his policies.

2. Despite his flaws, for the duration of his term I do not think he has been treated fairly by the media. That said I also think Obama was treated badly by the right wing sections of the media - however the general hysteria around not accepting Trump as president and the daily attacks some reasonable and some not from all sides were beyond anything I've seen in my lifetime.

3. Trump responded to this by acting in a way that made it worse. So we have a feedback loop - where the media got more and more aggressively anti trump and trump got more anti media.

4. Then online,  Social media itself creates "yes/no" thinking, simple rather than detailed conversations, and the algorithms to maximise your engagement send you more of stuff you approve of - sending people into rabbit holes of idea reinforcement.

5. I believe the combinations of these things together have brought us to the strange state of affairs we have now where everyone is divided into two camps. Both sides think they are the true patriots. The left thinks the right are deplorable and the right thinks the left is crazy.

Here's my problem with the impeachment:

1. The attack of the capitol is totally unacceptable.

2. Trump's speech did not call for any violence and in-fact used several phrases that directly suggest the opposite.

3. Before being de-platformed Trump tweeted twice saying while he understood the anger and the frustration and while he also does't accept the election result there can not be violence and that his party stands for law and order and respecting authority etc.

4. It may be that the far right groups who staged the assault were motivated by Trumps claims of a phoney election despite his calls for peace.  However, if this is the case, it should be noted that senior figures from the left claimed the previous election 2016 was hijacked for several years.

5. Likewise radicals from the left staged violent incidents in the preceding years - including things like violently capturing a city block, driving out police, and declaring it a seperate society. While some of the triggering incidents (floyd) are understandable, no political figures from the left have been held responsible for their ideology creating radicals when there have been crimes to the extent that we now seem to be suggesting figures on the right are responsible for the existence of right extremists. Additionally some on the left made statements that are questionable - such as the suggestion to confront trump cabinet members when they are seen in shops etc.

Looking at that wider context - and while I think there's a lot of regrettable things about Trump - I just don't get the logic of he can be fairly blamed for what happened at the capitol.

He's really only done the same tactics that the other side has been using, and there's no doubt to me that in another scenario we could easily see a similar incident based around the left.

What's really disturbing to me - is that despite the above - and despite actively calling for no violence - he's going to be impeached for inciting violence.

It's almost like we're all so outraged about this that what actually happened doesn't seem to matter anymore. I find it really disconcerting. I'm not even a Trump fan but the way this has all played out simply doesn't make sense.

Good, thoughtful post. My disgust with Trump is based on his playing to the worst, most bigoted parts of American that, while always existed, lay dormant amongst most discussion prior to his arrival. No president has ever, ever done as much to instigate hate in this country, from both sides. He did this. This is the bed he is sleeping in. No reaction from media or others is unfair.

#553 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Gn’R related thing still excites you? » 304 weeks ago

Todd Kerns did an interview with Fortus recently. Not a whole lot going on but cool it was Kerns and Fortus.

Edit: here’s some of it https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge … _like.html

Traditional GnR disclaimer - you won’t learn a lot. He does talk a little bit about the dynamics of nu GnR which I would classify as the most interesting thing.

#554 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 304 weeks ago

slashsfro wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

It starts when everything is turned upside down. What's up is down and what's down is up. What's right is now left...and so on...

They started this all off with the phrase 'alternative facts' where they reinvented everything except for the wheel itself. It was a new language where everything had to be the opposite of the way it was no matter what. Just backlash against everything, everywhere and turn it upside down.

Well what the hell did they think would happen?  That they would get off scott free with no punishment at all?

From the looks of things, yes. That’s absolutely what they thought.

#555 Re: The Garden » NFL 2019 » 304 weeks ago

Aaaaand the Eagles fired Doug Pederson. Weird timing considering top candidates were already interviewing for open positions this week. Crazy he’s gone so shortly after a SB win and 2 playoff appearances following. Makes me sick the pats lost to this schlub.

#556 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago

I’m not entirely serious it’s a deepfake, but it reminded me of this

It’s a project from the South Park guys. I just found the things he was saying in his latest video so absurd for him that it instantly reminded me of the Sassy Justice video. And yeah, the video seems oddly cutup as well.

#557 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Gn’R related thing still excites you? » 305 weeks ago

I literally check this forum multiple times per day just hoping for any new music, official or not. That’s all I want.

You can take the So Fine Duff Acoustic only demo and shove it though. Not interested in outtakes of already recorded Illusions songs.

#558 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

New Trump video


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Looks like a Sassy Justice deepfake.

#559 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago

(Unrelated)

In the first news report video James posted earlier (had trouble quoting on my phone) my favorite segment is about how grocers are using your data. As someone who works for a predominant player in the, ahem, data industry, it’s quite humorous to see how this has been happening for decades.

#560 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago

slcpunk wrote:

Trump terrorist gets shot and appears to die wrapped in her Trump flag...what a visual. Unbelievable.

https://twitter.com/Cleavon_MD/status/1346951966203629570

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Yep, dead. Unreal.

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