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#5771 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago
Bright Eyes 2005 wrote:Whatever. The charts have no impact on me. I could care less. How do charts impact your lives? Why do they matter? If you love a band and music, then love it, but don't let commercial fad's determine your taste.
It matters because had the results been different, people would be talking up the sales and the charts and everything else. You can't have it both ways.
Buzz, I am saying this in a very constructive manner... please, let it go. Who cares what other people say about what should have been. Really, you are not proving anybody right or wrong in the end. The numbers will be the numbers. Everybody here knows your point of view. You don't make yourself out to be the better man by continuosly belaboring your point of view....just like the people who argue on the opposite side. I truly am not sure what board is worse at this point. The alleged "no censor" board is just an argument or bitch fest between 5 people or the utter ridiculous state of something like HTGTH. The album is out and it may be the worst time to be a Gnr fan ever. The whole scene is lame...from the cheesy Velvet Revolver right down to the last piano twinklings of Chinese. Damn, can we start all over??????:|
#5772 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Vector - it's over. Better is out as a single. Crickets. It's not like GnR is some new band that needs to grow it's listener base organically, it's an established brand name. If it was going to take off, it would have happened by now. It isn't going to happen, nor did they try to make it happen for whatever reason.
Exactly. Karma.
I was as positive as I could be (even got into it with you a couple of times), but I gave it a shot, supported it, spread the word - it failed.
That's showbiz. Fans still holding out that "this is far from over", "give it some time" are just good folks trying to stay positive, and that's admirable.
The reality is - BOMB.
To say it is over after two weeks is just ignorant. It very well may be, but the second single just went to radio last week. I still say give it to x-mas/the new year. Two weeks is just ...well, two weeks.:/
#5773 Re: Guns N' Roses » what are we disappointed with? » 909 weeks ago
All I ever wanted was the album and I got it. I wanted Axl Rose singing on record again. In the end, I am a little disappointed at sales SO FAR but really don't care what happens after this as long as Axl is doing something. Reunion? Fine. New band Chinese tour? Fine as long as Tommy is a part of it. Whatever happens, happens. The record is what I expected and I enjoy it as much as I enjoyed the Illusions....no need to debate what is better because I enjoy both. I enjoyed the old band and some things about the new band. The odyssey is over for me. Cheers.......or daggers to you few crazies killing each other over in the TWAT section.
#5774 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago
While we're showing SMiLE some love I'd like to mention that the version of Good Vibrations on that album is far superior to the one on Pet Sounds.
Good Vibrations isn't on Pet Sounds and no it's not!:haha:
#5775 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Elimination Round 1 » 910 weeks ago
Shackler's
#5776 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 910 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Del knows Slash coming back lowers his position in the pecking order. Right now, it's all about the hanger-ons trying to protect their position as long as they can.
I totally agree. The old band represnst some sort of normalcy. Axl needs real people in his life again instead of all these fucking yes men and hanger on types. He needs people who will tell him to shut the fuck up.
Slash and Duff really told Axl to shut the fuck up back in the day....so much so that they just blindly gave him the rights to the name. Why didn't they stand up then? Why didn't they tell him to fuck off then? Why didn't they demand he show up on time for the shows? Why... because of money? They wanted to save the band? No, they pussed out-that's why. They were yes men in the end. The only one who ever stood up to Axl was Izzy. Now, that is the guy that needs to be involved more with Axl.
Del and Beta aren't going anywhere.
However, I think the new band is toast now. So, either Slash and Duff get along with Axl's yes men, or there won't be a reunion. Axl holds all the cards to a reunion because the entity is his so they are forced to give in if it is to happen.
As I tried to state before, Axl is the MAIN problem. He is the one who determines everything and who has ultimately fucked this whole thing up. Axl and Axl only. 
#5777 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 910 weeks ago
please tell us Swami? I fear Axl goes away........way away.
#5778 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Album is Kickass and I want a tour please! » 910 weeks ago
I understand, but Robin does play a huge part in the new band.
#5779 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 910 weeks ago
AND....don't you guys think the hangers on know that a reunion is like a lottery ticket. They will be a part of it no matter what (just talking about Del and Beta). Trust me, big bucks start floating around and suddenly Del and Slash are best buddies again.
#5780 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 910 weeks ago
Del knows Slash coming back lowers his position in the pecking order. Right now, it's all about the hanger-ons trying to protect their position as long as they can.
Buzz and 08, that is complete horseshit. You have no idea what Del or anyone else close to Axl thinks. Axl is the problem. He is the boss. He makes the decisions. Those guys will support Axl no matter what. The entire saga falls squarely on Axl's shoulders....not his maid, not Fernando, not Merck. Heavy lies the crown...Axl wanted it, he has it, and he should be man enough to live up to it....:|
