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#571 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

He literally blamed the Afghan military by saying they had an air force, but he pulled out the maintenance crews which grounded them. He's lying. The "buck stops with him" but he's taking no responsibility. He went as low to blame the civilians, the same people who are packed on an airport runway and falling from planes.

you're losing your shit dude...no accountably for anyone but Biden. Pathetic...no one over the course of the last 20 years deserves any blame...the fact that after 20 years Afghanis couldn't get their shit together...

Either way...shit went down in Syria that didn't bother you. This bothers you...really strange...

#572 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

He actually blamed Trump. These are progressive Twitter talking points.

This is a lie, the option was not going back to a 20 year war, this is about his failure to create an exit plan.

No...it's not...Afghanistan has been a shit show for 20 years. This is how it was always going to end.

This is about ending and endless war and I'm good with it. I just wish there was a better plan for refugees but after 20 years if you still don't care enough to fight for your own country...wtf are we supposed to do?

#573 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

James wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

are you saying your balls don't feel big enough?

Yes Mitch....that's exactly what is being conveyed there.

It's time to accept that we're not getting shit on our investment in the middle east over the past 20 years...make me your heel if you must.

#575 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
James wrote:

Everyone predicted he was our next Jimmy Carter.....

https://i.imgflip.com/4sg0hf.jpg


He's our next Gerald Ford....he's gonna take the fall for all the fuck ups and since he ain't worth a shit either way, will get tossed out on his ass.

Over reaction James....stop...breath and think a minute....why in the ever living fuck does it take hours to undo what took 2 decades to build?

ok I'll answer my own question then...talk about failure government programs....this has to be the poster child...

#576 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

James wrote:

Everyone predicted he was our next Jimmy Carter.....

https://i.imgflip.com/4sg0hf.jpg


He's our next Gerald Ford....he's gonna take the fall for all the fuck ups and since he ain't worth a shit either way, will get tossed out on his ass.

Over reaction James....stop...breath and think a minute....why in the ever living fuck does it take hours to undo what took 2 decades to build?

#577 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

This is an indictment on our bloated and feckless military more than anything...don't sing me songs of misery about your time over there if you didn't actually do anything.

#578 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

No one is blaming Joe for the war. I'm blaming him for this catastrophic exit and surrender.

Just read this:

@RobbieGramer

Ronald Neumann, the former US ambassador to Afghanistan, told me: “There’s a difference between the Biden decision to leave, and the Biden execution of the decision. The decision to leave is arguably justifiable. The execution of that decision is a lamentable disaster.”

It's also just come out that Biden refused to allow maintenance crews in to help the Afghan air force, which grounded the jets and denied them their greatest advantage.

That's right everyone...after over 15 years of being in Afghanistan....they still couldn't figure out how to build a runway....

#579 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

No one is blaming Joe for the war. I'm blaming him for this catastrophic exit and surrender.

Just read this:

@RobbieGramer

Ronald Neumann, the former US ambassador to Afghanistan, told me: “There’s a difference between the Biden decision to leave, and the Biden execution of the decision. The decision to leave is arguably justifiable. The execution of that decision is a lamentable disaster.”

It's also just come out that Biden refused to allow maintenance crews in to help the Afghan air force, which grounded the jets and denied them their greatest advantage.

The Afghan government was incentivized to bilk this outcome.

#580 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

Yes, in a different thread about this exact topic.

Focus on whatever you want. The topic right now is the Taliban just took over Afghanistan because of one of the most spectacular failures of an American president ever.

Lol bc of a president? Let’s focus on that but NOT the last 15 plus years and a TERRIBLE return on a horrible investment.

Mitch if trump was the president right now, he'd rightly be thrown under the bus by western politicians and media.

Biden is in charge, doesn't mater what Trump did or didn't right now.

As for the "terrible return", this wasn't Iraq. Do you not remember the circumstances that brought about the Afghanistan war?

Fair enough on your point about that person in charge bears the burden…

But let’s be real about the situation…we didn’t succeeded on our goals here and the president in 2021 is not responsible for the worst allocation of resources over the past 15 years.

It took hours to overthrow something we spent 15 working on…talk about government overreach…just how many made money off of this ‘campaign’. I’m sure the military industrial complex will take the blame…yea right

‘Feed us more’….’never criticize us’…’we’re the best Americans’…

This is all I’ve heard from these people since I’ve been of age to vote.

Well I’m here to say you haven’t done shit. 20 years of the biggest government giveaway hidden by the guise that they were actually doing something…

Mostly just waiting around until their government giveaways kick in

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