Voodoochild wrote:

I dont expect anything, to be honest. In the past, he still had a point to make. Now it's all about the legacy. It's fine, he can still make music for a long time if he wants to. What still moves me is to find some gems like Vegas 2001.

I think this is relatively on point...I don't see the motivation for creating new material anymore. I cannot imagine what it was like to try and be creative from the mid 1990s to 2008 when CD was released. There was nothing in it for him anymore by the end...all the money and attention was in playing the old hits and getting the old band back together.

Remember how cool it was for awhile to shit all over Axl Rose?

dalethirsty wrote:

“I was really happy with a lot of the material and I think we went in to do basic tracks and with a new drummer we did 36 songs in 36 days, so we weren’t fucking around,” says Slash. “After the basic tracks were done, I’d spend three weeks doing guitars, which for 30 songs was actually pretty fast. I was sometimes doing two songs in one day. But everything hit a brick wall when it came to doing the synthesizer stuff, and I never agreed with doing the synthesizer stuff anyway. Although I think some of it is brilliant, it was part of the new way, which was the beginning of the end. That was the beginning of the whole process taking forever. It was like a lot of days were not working, some days it was working, and most of the record was finished. It didn’t really need all the rest of it. That was the biggest disagreement for me.”

Izzy Stradlin was also exiling himself, distanced by the scale of the recording. “I did the basic tracks, then he [Slash] did his tracks, like a month or two by himself,” he said. “Then came Axl’s vocal parts. I went back to Indiana…”

“Well Axl’s a… perfectionist,” says Duff slowly. “That’s what makes him great. The end product’s great, but it gets maddening to work with that person. There’s no hashing out with them. November Rain in particular, the song was torturing him. He was happy he was finally finished with it. It wasn’t really characteristic of the band.”

a raw use your illusion as one album without all the filler would have been amazing.

i'd love to hear that version someday.

but then there's also this interesting quote from axl:

“We knew we had to bury Appetite in some way,” Rose told Hit Parader, soon after their release. “There was no way to out-do that album, and if we didn’t outdo Appetite in one way or another it was going to take away from our success and the amount of power we had gained to do what we wanted. I’ve never really looked at it as two separate albums. I’ve always looked at it as an entire package. For me it fits together perfectly for the 30 songs in a row. Everything that we decided to record for the album made it.”

It's obvious Axl never wanted to bury AFD. $1000 for AFD Box and $179 for AFD Deluxe. AFD dominates NITL setlist. Doesn't look like AFD is buried to me.

LocoComa wrote:

I don't even know what the fuck that is supposed to mean.

just some annoying little shit feeling bored, that's all