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#6211 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 917 weeks ago
over 500,000 is my pick.....but my predition is anywhere from 500,000 to 600,000 tops. James, you are WAY low.
#6212 Re: Guns N' Roses » My appologies to Axl and all the believers. » 917 weeks ago
all signs pont to a release.......but, I definitely still have my doubts. The good thing is that I really don't expect a "Masterpiece" because I have too many demos that I now think will be on it. I like the tunes, and I like the ideas. However, the production and musical execution of those ideas I do question. The Best Buy leaks showed me they will be better, but I will need all the songs, sequenced in the artists tracklist, before I can determine the overall worth of the album.
#6213 Re: The Sunset Strip » Fall Out Boy Album Moved Back Six Weeks (Funny GNR mention) » 917 weeks ago
Translation: Universal, which Island Records is under, doesn't want Fall Out Shit up against Chinese....
#6214 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 917 weeks ago
knock on wood....if Gnr makes an announcement on Thurs, someone better give some props to Captian Obvious because that will be quite a call. 
#6215 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 917 weeks ago
madagas wrote:Russ, there is some noise about Best Buy buying three million copies up front.....3 times platinum by RIAA shipped standards before it goes in to stores. Sounds insane but Ax would recoup all recording costs in one big swoop......this isn't even taking in to consideration the rest of the world where it will do much better than in the States. If you wait a few months folks, you could get CD for $5.99 when they are desperately trying to dump it.
Either way, Best Buy will make out like bandits on foot traffic alone. People who aren't normally in the store will pick up other shit while there.:peace:
You're totally correct on how Best Buy plans to make money on this.
Remember though that those 3 million copies have to be bought by consumers for SoundScan to count it.
I believe that the regular one will be $8.99 on day of release and the (special edition?) other one will be $12.99.
I understand that Soundscan will determine the Billboard charts (actual sales). However, Uni/Geffen/Interscope and Axl don't give a flying fuck how many sell if Best Buy purchases 3 million with a no return clause. Axl wipes the slate clean on US shipments only then begins to turn a profit on worldwide sales. This could be one of the biggest coups in rock history.:P
#6216 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 917 weeks ago
Russ, there is some noise about Best Buy buying three million copies up front.....3 times platinum by RIAA shipped standards before it goes in to stores. Sounds insane but Ax would recoup all recording costs in one big swoop......this isn't even taking in to consideration the rest of the world where it will do much better than in the States. If you wait a few months folks, you could get CD for $5.99 when they are desperately trying to dump it. Either way, Best Buy will make out like bandits on foot traffic alone. People who aren't normally in the store will pick up other shit while there.:peace:
#6217 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 917 weeks ago
multiple people have already confirmed this at MyGnr and HTGTH....I am still a little edgy about why we haven't gotten an announcement yet.....just seems weird.
#6218 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 917 weeks ago
looks like Best Buy has some Chinese in their system...here are their sku numbers, probably three different colors before anyone goes apeshit.
Posted at GNRSOURCE.com:
9111016 - Chinese Democracy 'Version 1' - $13.99
9111034 - Chinese Democracy 'Version 2' - $13.99
9111052 - Chinese Democracy 'Version 3' - $13.99
9111061 - Chinese Democracy 'Version 1' - $19.99
9111043 - Chinese Democracy 'Version 2' - $19.99
9111025 - Chinese Democracy 'Version 3' - $19.99
#6219 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pitmans official website opened » 917 weeks ago
Axl's site is the best though....ba bing!
#6220 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 917 weeks ago
Any "reunionists" out there care very much about CD madagas. CD being released opens the doors for what 90% (likely an undererstimate, but I'll be generous) of music fans really want from Guns N' Roses. If you think that most people wouldn't jump on board in 2 seconds if there was a reunion tomorrow, you're only fooling yourself.
It's a pipe dream for anybody to think the world is really waiting with baited breath for an Axl Rose solo album under the disguise of GnR. No successful band has ever gone on with one member of that band (two if you want to count Dizzy) and succeeded anywhere near the level of the old band. Not one. Even the supergroups never really succeed and they merge several members of successful bands. Why do you guys think this is going to be the one exception to the rule?
Can CD have a decent hit or two on it? Sure, that has happened in the past in these situations. Is the public going to be begging for or lining up for another Axl Rose solo album after this one? No. So what is the logical next step?
Azoff has an established track record. The public wants it. There will be huge money involved and I'm not foolish enough to think that money (and the ego boost that goes with it) isn't a motivating factor for these guys. None of the band members have ever said no to the possibility of it under the right circumstances. Azoff has worked in difficult situations before...he can bring sides together that people thought would never see eye ot eye again, so don't think GnR is any different.
I see both sides of this discussion and neither side is wrong. It's fairly obvious that CD is intended to be released this year. It's also pretty obvious that there are signs indicating that a reunion is AT THE VERY LEAST a realistic possibility in the relatively near future (next 2 years). You guys are all trying so hard to prove the other side wrong...neither side is wrong. Anything is possible from CD being pulled and a reunion early next year to CD coming out followed by 3 more GnR albums and no reunion ever happens (and everything in between). No matter what happens, isn't NOTHING the only really bad scenario?
well, I agree with just about everything. I personally want both.
1. I realize the general public looks at this as an Axl solo record. So do I. However, unlike most Gnr fans who are so wrapped up in the name issue and popularity, I don't give a fuck what the band is called or if it sells 500,000 copies. I just want good music from Axl Rose and am interested in what the fuck he has done for 14 years.
2. If they intend to reunite, then Axl needs to dump anything and everything from these sessions within a 6 month timeframe. The only way Axl can overcome the "10 years for this?" mindset of the general public is to dump all the material at once-shock and awe with 3 discs sold separately or hell, just sell it altogether for say $15-$20. Dump it all.
