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#621 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 148 weeks ago
lol and before anyone suggests The Garden that has not been soundchecked or appeared on any other lists
But The General has been on that list that was shot by that journalist and then removed.
Also Duff's "possibly this week" comment in that story was not removed by TB after all. Someone contacted the site and they had a crash which resulted in some stories linking to 404's The full interview with Duff will be German man soon/ish
#622 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 148 weeks ago
They are stills from a video uploaded today during the gig https://www.instagram.com/stories/gunsn … 027977365/
you see a flick through the list that the guy at soundboard has. Doesn't mean there about to be played, but the soundman has obviously has notes on how to prep for those songs going off that. So it's inevitable i would say.
if the guy running sound has notes on what to do for those songs then thats a stage past them being soundchecked
#623 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 148 weeks ago

The and what looks like the left hand of a G
#625 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 148 weeks ago
That 'Tim' Pittman was all over the leaks!
yeah I laughed out loud at that haha. I like how he makes out he has exclusive material thats in the hands of only a few when most of the tunes he is talking about are on Youtube. I think Ricks gonna go on.
#626 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 148 weeks ago
Looks like this youtuber has done a video on the locker leaks. Rick is in the comments section and the guy has invited him on the show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2NbgyaLjh0
#627 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 148 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Yeah thats right. It's thanks to you that we have much of the info we do.
"As far as the songs go: 'Oklahoma' was pretty much written by the time they got to the studio. Axl wrote that with inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing (more as a tribute to those who died, if I'm not mistaken).(Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05).
It was inspired by a court date with ex-wife Erin Everly. ''I was sitting in litigation with my ex-wife, and it was the day after the bombing,'' .'' (Axl Rolling Stone. 2000) That was two days after Duff and Izzy recorded Toothpuller, Machine gun, down by the sea in April 95
“I was a staff engineer at Rumbo Recorders and was about to quit or lose my mind . I thought it was time to get what clients I had (practically none) and get out. The manager came to me and said Guns was coming in to do their next record and they had no producer or engineer and that needed someone with experience so I said "yes" and she also said they would be writing for two months and then recording for two months and they would be it (haha) seven months later. I bailed on good terms with Axl and the band but not with the studio”.(David Dominguez Sp1at)
“Most of the songs had working titles but I know that "Oklahoma" and "Ides of March" were songs that were almost complete.(David Dominguez Sp1at)
“Some were three seconds long, some were three minutes long. Sometimes it was just a guitar lick. ‘Oh, that’s cool.’ They were transferred to CD. Everything had an ID and a number, then the CDs were made for each member of the band. They could go, OK, on set four, CD three, idea 15, let’s do something with that.’ Then everybody would take their CD home, get the part and write something to that. It was intense.(David Dominguez Producer 2010.12.DD - What's On Dubai)
I believe the ID system is on the locker leak discs too. The Rebel is J587 278 for example, makes me wonder how many of those discs there were in total
Ahh, that's cool and quite detailed. It was such a long time ago now lol.
I was doing alot of promoting years ago, so it was a fun thing on the side. The promoter game was a stress so it was good to do something else. When promoting, you are putting your own money out there and you only break even if 90% of the tickets are sold, then you make a bit extra from merch and refreshments. Ticket master make more because they own the venues so it's hard to compete
Thanks man, who did you promote? Anyone we know?
#628 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 148 weeks ago
Yeah thats right. It's thanks to you that we have much of the info we do.
"As far as the songs go: 'Oklahoma' was pretty much written by the time they got to the studio. Axl wrote that with inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing (more as a tribute to those who died, if I'm not mistaken).(Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05).
It was inspired by a court date with ex-wife Erin Everly. ''I was sitting in litigation with my ex-wife, and it was the day after the bombing,'' .'' (Axl Rolling Stone. 2000) That was two days after Duff and Izzy recorded Toothpuller, Machine gun, down by the sea in April 95
“I was a staff engineer at Rumbo Recorders and was about to quit or lose my mind . I thought it was time to get what clients I had (practically none) and get out. The manager came to me and said Guns was coming in to do their next record and they had no producer or engineer and that needed someone with experience so I said "yes" and she also said they would be writing for two months and then recording for two months and they would be it (haha) seven months later. I bailed on good terms with Axl and the band but not with the studio”.(David Dominguez Sp1at)
“Most of the songs had working titles but I know that "Oklahoma" and "Ides of March" were songs that were almost complete.(David Dominguez Sp1at)
“Some were three seconds long, some were three minutes long. Sometimes it was just a guitar lick. ‘Oh, that’s cool.’ They were transferred to CD. Everything had an ID and a number, then the CDs were made for each member of the band. They could go, OK, on set four, CD three, idea 15, let’s do something with that.’ Then everybody would take their CD home, get the part and write something to that. It was intense.(David Dominguez Producer 2010.12.DD - What's On Dubai)
I believe the ID system is on the locker leak discs too. The Rebel is J587 278 for example, makes me wonder how many of those discs there were in total
#629 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 148 weeks ago
One more thing on that subject (CITR-Checkmate clips)....
They realized that they were allowing too many people access to these clips to shop around for more tracks. Instead of acquiring more tracks under the table with these clips....they started getting leaked instead.
After that fiasco...they stopped using other people for this and kept it in their inner circle.
Makes sense, I'd love to know names of other tracks that are out there in private hands.
Specifically the early stuff from 1998, I know that Oklahoma is out there but i wonder if Ides Of March is. Dave Dominguez told Sp1at that those two were the most finished and given he started there in January and left seven months later there must have been pretty complete versions between January and July of 1998.
According to the NY Times In 1998 studio technicians were burning as many as five CD's per week with various mixes of different songs to play Axl. I find it hard to believe none of them ever ripped any of that stuff.
We have no idea how much of that stuff is really out there sat on someones shelf or in someones locker.
#630 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 148 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Axl S wrote:Then I was lied to! When did this emerge?
Ive had it for awhile I forget it's origin, also to be fair I do not know that it's real but it looks it to me. I can certainly believe People had Atlas and prostitute back then though.
I believe that tape is where the first version of Catcher came fromI mentioned this before...
This is why the Catcher leak wasn't supposed to happen. Its leak would highlight the fact there's more unheard songs. The 9 second clip that got out was only to be used as trade bait.
The community went crazy over it, wouldn't stop the insanity, and a few weeks later they went ahead and leaked it begrudgingly.
It is NOT a coincidence that the next trade bait clip that surfaced was Hard School/Checkmate....and need I remind everyone how quick that shit got shut down?
In hindsight I think if that had leaked in full, it might have caused a chain reaction...which is why it didn't happen.
DJ razz if i remember right. All his blogs about it are still online on the wayback machine somewhere. I think I re-read them last year.

