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#631 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Context of How Old Some of these Tracks Are » 371 weeks ago
I'm with Sp1at.
I think it'd have sold at least decently by default
It'll sell....at least right out the gates. What propels the big numbers is a series of high charting singles keeping it in the public eye.
It doesn't really have that although luck, timing, etc could cause one song to take off.
IMO it sells between 1-3 million in 99-00....with a big single maybe 5.
Edit
Platinum in the states and the rest elsewhere.
James, it probably sells close to a million in the first week and hits that 3 mill mark pretty fast. Just based on intrigue. Albums sold alot then, even for mid tier artists. The world was very different. Again, it might not be selling 15 million copies... but it sells more in 1 month then, than CD has sold since 08.
Limp Bizkit were, like, the band everyone was talking about?
Unfortunately yes.
Welcome back btw!
#632 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Context of How Old Some of these Tracks Are » 371 weeks ago
I'm with Sp1at.
I think it'd have sold at least decently by default.
Limp Bizkit sold almost 7 million copies of an album in 2000 in the US alone. Hybrid Theory by Linkin Park sold 27 Million world wide plus. U2 sold over 12 million. nevermind Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears, NSYNC ect who all sold pretty decently all in 2000.
I don't want to compare it to Eminem, but the Marshal Mathers album sold 32 million +. Now while I doubt this sells anywhere in the same ballpark, you get the idea... albums still sold in 2000.
I think the Green Day comparison is a good one. In 2004 they sold 15 million +.
You might remember the tracks from many of those albums, but not all had major hit singles on them, it's worth pointing out.
There's no excuse in hindsight for not just releasing them prior to that 02 tour when albums still sold and what the public perception and press became. I reckon it still sells 10 million by default at least in 2000. It was too late by 08.
#633 Guns N' Roses » The Context of How Old Some of these Tracks Are » 371 weeks ago
- AtariLegend
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The first Brian May Atlas Shrugged/Perhaps/Catcher in the Rye should probably turn 20 years old in just over a month (November-ish maybe).
For context, think back to 1999, listening to one of those tracks now is the equivalent of listening to one of these tracks when they were recorded:
Nevermind the earlier tracks.
#634 Re: Guns N' Roses » Extremely Dubious Fernando Reddit Account, Might Actually be Fernando » 371 weeks ago
Central is less reliable than your standard MYGNR thread. It's a shame there's probably people who google Guns N' Roses and take it seriously.
As for Fernando, the only reason this thread isn't title "album might be coming in 6 months" is that there's still a slither of doubt it's him. Assuming it is him however, he'd better off deleting the Reddit account and pretending he has nothing to do with it while he still has plausible deniability.
6 months though. I really hope the EP thing is nonsense. They do not need to re-record 20 year old tracks again. It's pretty clear that for some these tracks, it was downhill since March 2000.
#635 Re: Guns N' Roses » Extremely Dubious Fernando Reddit Account, Might Actually be Fernando » 371 weeks ago
and what’s russtcb doing over there?
He's the admin of MYGNR, he's been running it for downzy for a number of years now after leaving Evo.
#636 Guns N' Roses » Extremely Dubious Fernando Reddit Account, Might Actually be Fernando » 371 weeks ago
- AtariLegend
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https://www.reddit.com/user/flebeis/
Okay, so this guy has been posting on reddit for a while and it was assumed it was a troll account. However russtcb the admin of MYGNR and former evo admin alumni claim MYGNR supposedly had conversations with Fernando today who chose not to deny that the reddit account was his when asked 3 times.
So it's claimed there'll be a new album within 6 months.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/com … ses_album/
#637 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 371 weeks ago
The legal document (origin unknown?) includes Dragon, Seven, and Scraped, all of which aren’t on these discs. Well, Scraped isn’t at minimum anyway. And course, there are likely more discs.
I’m most curious about “This I Love”.
We all know there’s likely a v1 of it that originates with the classic lineup, Dave Dominguez mentioned a barebones version of it dating to 2000 IIRC, and a fan supposedly emailed Patti Hood in 2008 with the final track and she didn’t recognize it at all. And of course there’s whatever version was slated to appear in “What Dreams May Come” in 1997.
Curious.
“The only time he ever did really get upset with me was during one session – at the end of the song ‘This I Love’ he had said he was repeating the Stephanie scene one, like ‘I love you, Stephanie,’ or, ‘This I love Stephanie.’
And he heard it and goes, ‘Just erase all that.’ I was like, ‘Do you want me to back it up?’. He was, ‘No, erase it!’. He yelled and walked out of the room.
The assistant comes in, and I said, ‘We’re going to erase something GN’R fans are never ever going to hear.
This is crazy, this is a GN’R song that no one’s ever heard, and no one is ever going to hear this again.’ I looked at him and said, ‘Are you ready?’. And I put the tracks in and erased it.”
This I Love is another old track that might've been drawn back into the mix in 2000, after it last surfaced in 1998, as a possible inclusion to the What Dreams May Come soundtrack. Howard Karp worked on the song at that time as an assistant engineer to Caram Costanzo and producer Roy Thomas Baker.
"I only worked with Axl, no one else, it was a solo piano piece. I heard nothing else. Axl was cool, two short evenings, nothing too eventful." (Howard Karp, 01/19/04)
"It was very boring, sorry to say, just Axl and his piano (no singing) and a bunch of idiots running around catering to him and stroking him. I don't know if they'll ever release anything... shame." (Howard Karp, 03/13/04)
I didn’t want to do This I love in anyway shape or form and Robin and Caram insisted gaining Tommy’s and the others support.
Perhaps it was abandoned in the late 90's, then it was remade post these sessions.
#638 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 371 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:Grayfox wrote:‘Perhaps’ was also on the list along with ‘Nothin’
I'm not saying you're wrong (I honestly do not know), but have you got a link to a thread back then?
No I don’t have a thread.
Also not all song info was shared from the list either. But these are all real tracks:
Cuban Skies
The General
Atlas Shrugged
Soul Monster
Silkworms
Thyme
Goin Down
Tonto
Monstrocity
Nothin
Jackie Chan
Perhaps
4 Heavens
Light My Fire
I cannot find any mention of Perhaps/4 Heavens and Nothin prior to these leaks. If MSL did mention these, it must have been on his forum.
#639 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 371 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:Vale wrote:Didn't Axl mention a track named Cuban Skies in the chat?
Nope.
The only source for that title was supposedly people claiming this is what MSL's 2nd album was:
Atlas
Cuban Skies
Goin' Down
Jackie Chan
Light My Fire
Monstrosity
Silk Worms
Soul Monster
The General
Thyme
TontoThat was years ago. However he did get Tonto correct. So, unless MSL cares to comment himself... we can only leave this under dubious.
Personally though, I find it questionable. A Light My Fire cover and at least one Tommy Stinson solo track?
‘Perhaps’ was also on the list along with ‘Nothin’
I'm not saying you're wrong (I honestly do not know), but have you got a link to a thread back then?
#640 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 371 weeks ago
Holy shit...a media outlet (forgot which one) made up cock a roach soup.
Kerrang I think.
In fairness years ago when I was a kid, they claimed Sentimental Movie and Crash Diet were unreleased tracks from Chinese Democracy. May have even reviewed them.
Kerrang was as informative as a UK tabloid.
