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#631 Re: Guns N' Roses » Baz talks about the general and the "trilogy" » 937 weeks ago
i disagree
the majority of non cd material is not throwaways. whether or not it is good is subjective but three albums worth of what he thinks is good material has been in the works for some time. axl has always had a vision toward doing something special since the original band broke up, more so than one decent album and 2 more albums of throwaways. this album has been delayed for more than twice as many reasons as any other album in the history of music but if the only goal was to put out one solid album it would have been out by now.
as an artist i can relate to axl. not everyone writes and records 13 songs and makes that into an album and then repeats. everyone has a different process and axl's seems to be focused on both quality and quantity, rather than time. if i were planning to put out three albums in a respectively short period of time, upon completion, and i wanted them to all be great there would be songs all over the place, some finished and some half or less finished. i admit it wouldn't take me this long but everyone is different and i do not know all of his obstacles. when you write you do what you are inspired to do at the time if you want it to turn out well.
i don't think they have been sitting on cd while they finish the other two so the "release chinese democracy and then concentrate on your trilogy" comment i keep reading really doesn't apply. at some point, the writing of the third album may have been more complete than cd for all we know.
I respect your difference in opinion and actually hope you are correct but I feel there is too much assumption in your statements to know for sure. For example: "the majority of non cd material is not throwaways", there is no way to know this. I would argue the opposite based on stuff like Oh My God. Axl ended up calling it a "demo". I think a poor reception became "demo" magically. As far as Axl's vision it has been a very unclear one. Originally he was doing industrial flavored tracks for Chinese Democracy, look at what we have heard since. His vision has been altered as times changed (and musical tastes as well) while he played around with a over-a-decade-in-the-making album (or trilogy if you wish). A true "vision" is unaltered, it doesn't wane with trends.
As far as understanding him as an artist, I do and don't. I am a writer, have had a band, written songs (etc) and I am very much an obsessive compulsive but don't relate to what he has done. It seems more to me like he has a period when he is interested in the project and then a period when he just says fuck it. If this was truly his "vision" I would have expected a little more effort and a lot more results. As far as the quallity, well that has been extremely varied as well. Riyadh is "eh" at best, Madagascar is very hit and miss, Oh My God is...well, mediocre would be a compliment.
With these things said I want to state again I appreciate your opinion and the way you chose to state them, very non-confrontational and with class. That's what we need more of on the forums, people being able to state their opinions without being flamed. In the end even though I may disagree with some your ideas I really hope I end up being the one wrong! Three solid albums from W Axl Rose could certainly help me forget the long long road we took to finally get there.
#632 Re: The Garden » Favorite President? » 937 weeks ago
George W!!!!!
.....Just kidding!
Ronald Wilson Reagan all the way.
#633 Re: Guns N' Roses » Baz talks about the general and the "trilogy" » 937 weeks ago
The material may exist and it probably does. Baz can be an airhead (I like his music more than some on here but a fact is a fact) but I don't think he is lying. My problem with the material is how much is simple retakes of the same material or just throwaways? That may be why there has been some discrepancy in the number of tracks as well. At some points this or that song may be considered "on the list" and then at others "scrapped". This in my mind is the main reason above all others why CD has still not seen the light of day. I think Axl knows that CD gained a large cult status (even if it has became more and more of a joke the past few years) and now it has to be at least very solid to not be the joke that will forevermore be the monkey on his back. It can't possibly live up to the hype that followed it but at least a very solid rock album would be somewhat "respectable" and then he could move on. The fear of the album being a joke and not respectable would explain him redoing track after track and trying to pick the best of the best.
Like DTJ and others have said before however, none of this trilogy talk means anything until we get CD. It's like saying "once I graduate college I plan on being the world's best surgeon" when you haven't even finished high school yet.
#634 Re: The Garden » Man Killed by Train While Looking at Lottery Ticket » 938 weeks ago
Wow... I know trains can be really silent if you're right out in front of them and looking away, but with the horn going, you'd think he would've noticed it.
Yeah, that is odd. There's a biking trail I ride sometimes that joins (well runs horizontal at a point) a railroad track and you can definitely be taken by surprise at how silent a train can come up on you but the horn is L O U D! Odd at best.
#635 Re: The Garden » Man Killed by Train While Looking at Lottery Ticket » 938 weeks ago
It looks that way, but the lottery ticket thing is a curve ball. Wouldn't it be ironic if he had the winning ticket?
That would be my kinda luck. 
#636 Re: The Sunset Strip » I met Sebastian Bach Today!! » 938 weeks ago
Coll stuff monkeychow! All the Baz-haters can believe whatever they want but your ears will tell you the true story when you hear this guy sing live. I don't give a fuck what anybody else tries to sale you the dude has one of the best rock n roll voices ever...period...end of story.
Have a great time man.
#637 Re: The Sunset Strip » Top Heavy Metal Musicians Select Favorite Guitarists Of All Time » 938 weeks ago
There were a few that struck me as odd (like Hetfield and Angus Young so high
That's the same thing I was thinking and even funnier was seeing his (Angus') brother Malcolm!
#638 Re: The Sunset Strip » Top 10 albums of the 80's » 938 weeks ago
1. Appetite For Destruction - G'n F'n R's!
2. Piece of Mind - Iron Maiden
3. Back in Black - AC/DC
4. Metal Health - Quiet Riot
5. Pyromania - Def Leppard
6. Mechanical Resonance - Tesla
7. Master of Puppets - Metallica
8. New Jersey - Bon Jovi
9. The Joshua Tree - U2
10. Shout at the Devil - Motley Crue
#639 Re: The Garden » The 10 Greatest RBs of all time elimination- Round 5 » 938 weeks ago
Dickerson, now when it gets down to Sanders, Brown and Payton...the REAL competition will begin!!
#640 The Garden » Favorite Album Artwork » 938 weeks ago
- Gunslinger
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This is just about your favorite artwork, not necessarily the music itself.
For me:
GNR - AFD (Rape Cover)
Megadeth - Rust in Peace/United Abominations
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast/Piece of Mind/Powerslave....ok, almost all of Maiden's covers!
Ac/Dc - Highway to Hell (just really a stripped down cool album cover imo)
Dio - Holy Diver/Dream Evil
....and many various albums with hot chicks wearing very little clothing (too many to list!)
