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#641 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 371 weeks ago
Hearts Always Get Killed.
This has stuck in my brain since I heard it probably 20 years ago. Am I nuts? I swear Axl mentioned it a Rolling Stone or Spin article.
Made up a title, Axl confirmed in the chats.
BringBackBrain: Axl, here's a list of rumored song titles. Can you tell us which ones are bogus and which ones are real?
Ides Of March ('98), Oklahoma ('98), Atlas Shrugged ('99), Closing In On You ('99), Cock-A-Roach Soup ('99), Friend Or Foe ('99), Hearts Get Killed ('99), No Love Remains ('99), Oh My God ('99), Something Always ('99), Suckerpunched ('99), Zip It ('99), Silkworms ('00), Down By The Ocean ('01), Leave Me Alone ('02), Seven ('02), The General ('02), Thyme ('02), Quick Song ('05), Zodiac ('05), Motormouth ('06), We Were Lying ('06)
What do you think of fans who bring signs to shows?
Remember GIMME SOME TWAT @ Hammerstein?
That was me! Can you tell us if you will play new (non chi dem ) material on tour in 09?
Axl gets up around 7, Gets on the Net around 9, Answering the same fucking questions 200 times, Typing away and feeling fine, We've been chatting with Mr. Brownstone, He's be typing, He needs a faster internet connection at HOOOOMMMMEEEEE!
Axl: Ides Of March, Oklahoma, Atlas Shrugged, Oh My God, Silkworms , Down By The Ocean (Izzy), Leave Me Alone, Seven , The General , Thyme , Quick Song , Zodiac Most all titles subject to change w/out warning and r considered working titles.
No plans on tour setlist as of now.
#642 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 371 weeks ago
Didn't Axl mention a track named Cuban Skies in the chat?
Nope.
The only source for that title was supposedly people claiming this is what MSL's 2nd album was:
Atlas
Cuban Skies
Goin' Down
Jackie Chan
Light My Fire
Monstrosity
Silk Worms
Soul Monster
The General
Thyme
Tonto
That was years ago. However he did get Tonto correct. So, unless MSL cares to comment himself... we can only leave this under dubious.
Personally though, I find it questionable. A Light My Fire cover and at least one Tommy Stinson solo track?
#643 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 371 weeks ago
‘Leave Me Alone’ was a semi confirmed title at one point?
There's a 99% chance it's Me, Myself and Evis on Rough Mixes 4, AKA Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul or Soul Monster.
#644 Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 371 weeks ago
- AtariLegend
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Let's not just base it on rumored titles, people attributed to mysterious articles or interviews that no one has ever read.
What titles do we know aren't on these discs in some shape or fashion, that may have been recorded later? Pending the release of Rough Mixes 2 of course?
CONFIRMED TRACKS:
Seven:
Just for completeness sake, I'll add Brain's comments on this song from earlier in the year. It's a ballad from what we know previously.
"...we were writing all these songs to try and turn in. Xtract is sort of this old school DJ type, he’s a bass player but he loves old school break beats and you know, cratedigger type of guy. So, the shit we were putting together was crazy. We were going ‘OK what sample should we find for Axl? Well he’s sort of like Julius Ceasar’ so we were trying to sample stuff that reflected that. We were looking for old school, crazy shit and I think we sampled Ben-Hur, chopped it up, cut it up and that became a jam, I think we called it ‘Seven’."
The General: (SINCE RELEASED)
umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [...] (Dizzy Reed, Sp1at, January 2006)
"One of my favorite songs is this song called 'The General', which is so... it's by far the heaviest metal tune I think ive ever heard Axl do, this slow, grinding riff with these high, piercing vocals, screaming vocals. [...] [Axl] goes, 'Well, this comes out on the third record. It relates to this song, it's a trilogy, this goes with this lyrically.'" (Baz, Metal Edge, 11/06/07)
"[Bach] says Rose told him that a slow, grinding track called 'The General' is 'the sequel to [Use Your Illusion II's] 'Estranged,' that goes to the parable that Del James wrote of the trilogy' (James penned the short story that inspired the 'November Rain' video)." (Rolling Stone, 06/25/08)
Q: @gunsnroses PLEASE! what's the name of the intro u guys use live? It's amazing!!!
A: there are several.. "the General" is probably most played before CD
(twitter.com/gunsnroses, Dec. 2010)
POSSIBLE OTHERS:
Down by The Ocean:
"In '95, Duff and me recorded songs for the band. We made a tape that went nowhere. Then, a couple of months ago I have a message on my answering machine: 'Yo! It's Axl, I need a copy of the songs that you did.' There was one called 'Down by the Ocean' or 'Down by the Sea', they may have used it, I haven't come back to know nothing." (Izzy, Popular Magazine, 2001)
That was 2001. Axl said just confirmed the title in 08 and that it was attributed to Izzy in brackets. He didn't actually say they didn't use it.
POSSIBLY ON THE CDs UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME:
Ides of March:
[...] 'Ides of March' was a working title of one of the songs that came from a loop name that Dizzy came up with: I think they kept the name, but it's been years so I'm sure everything has changed by now." (Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05)
Sounds like Circus Maximus on rough mixes 4 (not confirmed) and it was recorded years prior.
So we have Seven and maybe Down by the Ocean, what else?
#645 Re: Guns N' Roses » Quick Song Disc » 371 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:Scabbie wrote:Does anyone know how many of these tracks that are missing vocals that Axl actually completed? Could they theoretically all still be instrumentals?
If the World
Better
Sorry
Shacker'sall got vocals later.
This I Love and Scrapped *which don't seem to be on the discs, unless under different names obviously had vocals later*
Me, Myself and Elvis (Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul) not on the album has vocals (see Axl chats)
Oklahoma (Berlin) presumably was if they were going to play it at one point during House of Blues 2001.
We assume:
Thyme did along with The General, Ides of March and Seven (the later 3 which don't appear to be here unless different names) were finished. Beltrami mentioned all 4.
If MSL is to believed so did Tonto.
Don't know about the rest. Just speculation.
Thyme is just the name of the instrumental arrangement that serves as intro for PRL.
In the year 2000 sure. However the Thyme title was still mentioned multiple times in later years. They probably just decided to call the whole track Thyme.
#646 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 4 » 371 weeks ago
I decided to go for a walk at 5am in the rain and dark instead of sleeping.
Listened to this up loud in headphones like it was an album on my phone and I have to say:
Some of this is really fantastic. It flows well as an album into you get to Thyme. Try not to listen to the tracks in a different order, if it's the first time.
Elvis is obviously great, but Circus is fantastic to me. I love it and I think James is right about it being Ides of March. It was described as an A list track and this is what Circus is.
The rest is pretty good too 
.
Curious what Thyme/P.R.L. sound like in full.
I think it's clear Axl had more than 1 album worth of strong material. The new holygrail of these stashes is 2002-2006 now.
Tracks like Elvis and Circus with vocals.
btw Bigbri, Bucket isn't on this Elvis, the dates don't match up. The march tracks seem to be mixes of tracks recorded in 99 and Bucket didn't meet Axl till (xmas eve 99 right?).
#647 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 4 » 371 weeks ago
As It Began....Seven?
That's a beautiful piece. Can't imagine not using it somewhere.
Scroll back a few pages in the section for the Seven thread. It's supposed to sample Ben Hur theme. tbh I don't think it's this.
#648 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 4 » 371 weeks ago
I like Circus Maximus as a base.
#649 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 4 » 371 weeks ago
Nothing has vocals!
