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#651 Re: Guns N' Roses » Matchmaker who finds new members for bands (Has worked for Guns) » 552 weeks ago
Having said that, what's Squires involvement if any CD related?
He delivered photos of would-be candidates, which were then scrutinized by Yoda?
Besides that, there's simply the fact that some guys (Robin, Brain) are hand-picked.
With some, there's a good deal of auditions before them (Bumble, DJ, Josh Freese).
Richie Kotzen from Poison auditioned before DJ, I think.
All in a day's work, really. You need to play with the new people to know what they'd bring to the table.
#652 Re: The Sunset Strip » Alien 5 & Prometheus 2 » 552 weeks ago
Make sure it is the Assembly Cut. Superior "directors cut" of the theatrical release.
Definitely. I enjoyed it as what it was, a version closer to Fincher's intended cut. I felt he and everyone else worked hard with what they had. Less than a script, with the anxious Fox execs and the incredibly territorial producer-writers Walter Hill and David Giler.
Those two lowered their stock in my eyes by condescending on the original Dan O'Bannon and Ron Shusset script for Alien. O'Bannon was fresh off from Jodorowsky's Dune, during the (aborted) production of which he encountered Giger's work. O'Bannon brought in a tough-as-nails script and a unique monster design. Hill and Giler felt they could 'fix' it by replacing a beautiful visual cue like redshift with superfluous jargon lifted from the Apollo program documents.
Giler and Hill also brushed up the script with a Point Blank -inspired format. Alien is a highly aesthetic film, so it's easy to see the benefits of an elegant script next to the Giger designs and Ridley Scott in the helm. However, film scholars keep raving about the sense of awe and terror O'Bannon's narrative injects into the film. They should, as a strong script was needed to maintain all the imagery.
It's a well-crafted film. Scott was commissioned a director's cut for a DVD release, which he obliged to do, while maintaining the original version was one he was already happy with. The DC blows the lid on the mystery of what happened to the lost crew members. The original cut deftly sets the stage for a beautiful monster in deep age, surrounded by a suitably grungy crew of space truckers. Only in the 70's. 
I think Aliens is a very good movie, but a bad Alien movie.
It did launch Alien to a broader audience though, and without it we would never have gotten the big budget sequels that we did, with more to come.
Aliens was another perfect storm in retrospect, if only in the sense of establishing the series as a franchise. Sigourney Weaver was a proponent of gun control, so you can bet she appreciated a return to a single alien without firearms. On Alien3, she was an actress-producer, and backed Fincher all the way. Unfortunately, many audiences were expecting the polar opposite, a rehash of Aliens. This was the Terminator 2 era of scifi action; Predator 2 had hinted on an Alien cross-over. To put it into perspective, I think Scott's original film would've had an uphill battle in 1991.
Imagine going after it under those circumstances - without a solid script. The pressure on Fincher and his crew was enormous, like the colossal sets built in Shepperton Studios, London. Hostile creative associates (Giler and Hill) were powerplaying their way into the writing process, motivated by greed. Executives at Fox had set a firm release date before filming. To make matter worse, an ill-advised teaser announced 'In 1992, we would discover, on Earth, everyone can hear you scream'. Next stop, misery.
Alien3 has problems, that's a given. But the fact that it can go head-to-head with every succeeding film in the expanded universe tells you something.
#653 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 552 weeks ago
Was Baby Blue played after every show, or just the last gig? It's an interesting song choice.
I got two suggestions.
Breaking Bad finale and Todd Rundgren, the producer of the original Badfinger song. Axl's always been a big Rundgren fan, covering Dust in the Wind as an intro to NRain on the UYI tour, if memory serves me right. My guess is that he's been aware of the song a good while, as he listens music by the dozens. However, he could've also caught the show and felt it resonated.
Having said that, Baby Blue is a bit solemn way to wrap up a tour. Essentially, the lyrics are about love lost. A relationship is in the skids and the narrator is hoping to get back into it.
Guess I got what I deserve
Kept you waiting there, too long my love
All that time, without a word
Ironic, eh?
There's a glimmer of hope at the end of the song, implying, 'I'm still here, I'll be coming back one day.'
Til that day.
#654 Guns N' Roses » '96 Album - The Original Leftovers » 552 weeks ago
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I was thinking, what's in the vault aside CD2?
"The songs composed by the boys [the Old Guns] for another album many years ago..." (Axl, Rock & Pop FM, 01/22/01)"
The '96 album.
They had songs, or ideas thereof.
And they liked them.
"We already did 7 songs... Rock songs that last only 4 minutes (laughs)." (Matt, 09/23/96)"
"The record will be all up-tempo rock songs ("No ballads," McKagan said firmly)." (Duff, Addicted to Noise, 08/30/96)
"I think that some of the riffs that were coming out of [Slash] were the meanest, most contemporary, bluesiest, rocking thing since Aerosmith's Rocks." (Axl, press release, 08/14/02)
"The songs are really good, and I have a good vibe about it." (Slash, Kerrang, 09/21/96)
Axl was playing rhythm guitar. However, Paul Huge has later been confirmed by Slash to have been in the sessions. Either way, both Axl and Paul could've played on the tracks.
"Axl is rhythym guitar on his own songs for the time being." (Slash chat, 07/30/96)
"Rose's sound is a lot more synthetic than anything I would get anywhere close to." (Slash, Total Guitar, 01/97)
"The first batch of material I heard definitely had an industrial thing about it." (Slash, Kerrang, 12/00)
"Of Axl's guitar setup, [Dave] Abbruzzese recalls, "You could hunt buffalo with his rig. It had a lot of lights, a lot of blinking lights, a lot of things that you stepped on. It sounded like a freight train that was somehow playable." (Rolling Stone, 05/11/00)
By that, Axl's style sounds like a heavily processed guitar sound, with effect pedals and such. It evokes more of an idea of a landscape sound or an incidental note than a traditional blues-based rhythm. 'Effect guitar' might be an apt description. This could go a long way to explain Axl's later affections towards Robin and Bucket.
A sticking point is how ready the songs were. Sometimes, Slash felt Axl's notion of a good song was simply a guitar riff being played out.
"When [Axl] did show up at rehearsal, he never sang." (Slash, autobiography)
Axl recorded the UYI vocals by living in a tent in the studio. He decidedly came in a week after the others to sing on Sympathy for the Devil. Slash might well be oblivious about the existence of any vocal tracks.
"We have song titles, but no album title." (Duff chat, 12/17/96)
Duff sounds like the song titles are 'serious', instead of simply Cornchucker or Instrumental 34. Serious song titles suggest Axl's been involved.
As it turns out, Axl did, possibly, record some vocals in around August '96. This can be derived from a remark by Youth (Killing Joke), who was attached as a producer in around April '98.
"He hadn't been singing for around 18 months." (Youth, The Times, 03/18/05)
This was also pre-Live Era or the re-recorded AFD.
Suddenly, a possibility emerges that some '96 tracks might feature lead vocals.
As for the 'Slash seed' of a song / Jackie Chan conspiracy theory...
"Today I was going to have to fly back right after this. We were going to start recording for this Jackie Chan movie, the next one." (Duff, Howard Stern Show, 07/25/96)"
Guess stranger things have happened than Checkmate being based on a '96 track.
"I honestly believe that everyone wants to make a new Guns N' Roses album now, and I think that everyone knows that if we don't do it now we may not get the chance." (Duff, Hit Parader, October 1996)"
"[The 1996 tracks are] not something I would want to approach (without Slash), because, at the time, there was only one person that I knew who could do certain riffs that way. [...] That's the reason why that material got scrapped." (Axl, press release, 08/14/02)
Now, Axl, here's an idea. Van Halen's A Different Kind of Truth.
Your reunion album is halfway done already. 
#655 Re: The Sunset Strip » Alien 5 & Prometheus 2 » 552 weeks ago
Looking forward? Sure.
To keep it simple, I feel the odd entries in Alien franchise are good as gold, whereas the even ones are clunkers.
I'm in the vocal minority in the matter, as a lot of people really dig Cameron's Aliens and dismiss Fincher's Alien3. Aliens fails to impress me, for whatever reason. I like The Terminator and Abyss, so go figure.
Alien3, however, has a good film buried underneath a checkered production history. The assembly cut in the anthology box is a glimpse of a desolate story. Despite many script issues, I feel Fincher got good performances out of his cast (Sigourney Weaver appears very scared next to the creature) and his visual style is already top-notch. There's a lot of hellbent dedication simmering through the screen, as if the cast & crew involved really put the work into salvaging the wreck.
There's a minor character (played by Paul McGuigan, a brief Dr Who and 'I' in Withnail and I) who goes a bit daft after encountering the creature and begins to idolize it, with grim consequences. This subplot is a nice example of Fincher's chosen milieu, which became more readily apparent in Seven. The poor inmate clung into a being he failed to understand as God and everything went from bad to worse. This ties into the overall mood of hopelessness, as the creature appears superior to the humans in every way, simply picking them out at its leisure.
To me, that's a whole lot more enticing than the (well-executed) action sequences in Aliens. I guess there's the rub; Scott's original film set the tone to Ripley being in a purgatorial state; deep space, far from home, in an enclosed maze with a monster. You can plausibly expand the universe into Cameron's direction from thereon. A world like that would surely have space marines with big guns. That's fine. The insect-like breeding habits also make sense. I have my reservations on the Queen overall, but then again, I feel H.R. Giger struck a precarious balance between flesh and technology, from whence came the biomechanical Alien and also, the Space Jockey. Cameron's design for the Queen is decidedly cut from a different cloth.
It's just that Cameron's movie overturns the paradigm; the creatures overpower the humans by numbers. Certainly, the lone warrior creature is stripped from it's elegance as the most evolved predator* mankind has ever seen. When they are but waves of cannon fodder, the creatures do get more impersonal. Alien3 addresses this point directly, with Ripley mulling over her relationship to the one beast at Fury 161. The one creature is the focal point of the story, a nigh-unstoppable killing machine. I guess it's something like having one shark in Jaws and a school of them in a sequel. The starting-off points are highly different.
Blomkamp should do fine. District 9 was an entertaining film and he's ready to recruit Michael Biehn as Hicks. Personally, I like Biehn and feel he should've been in Avatar as well, revisiting his Abyss role as the corporate/military baddie. It's too early to say where he'd go, but it's an odd-numbered entry. 
*The Predator is more like man evolved, a big game hunter.
Prometheus 2, Alien: Paradise Lost, or whatever loosely-connected-yet-deniable entry to the franchise Scott decides upon, should also be fine. This series, hopefully, will have terrible odd entries and solid even ones.
#656 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnREvolution Chinese Democracy Elimination 2015 - Round 10 » 553 weeks ago
Slash wanted to be free and to enjoy the rock star life. He was Slash from Guns, after all.
Axl wanted to be serious artist and to have Guns develop under his guidance.
The atmosphere was pretty grim, at times. The UYI tour, late starts, ongoing substance abuse, numerous incidents, communication breakdown, Doug Goldstein, the media...
Duff had slowly become sick. Very sick. Slash was an out n' out alcoholic. Axl was wrapped up in his past lives, in forms of spousal abuse lawsuits and regression therapy.
They all had huge personal issues to deal with.
Everybody was looking at the cash-cow that was thought to have imploded by 1987.
What they would've needed was time off.
#657 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnREvolution Chinese Democracy Elimination 2015 - Round 10 » 553 weeks ago
Take away Better and you're looking at a damn good EP.
And you're looking at tracks from the Beavan sessions from '98-'99. You know, the one that Jimmy Iovine resented for the drums being 'too industrial', or whatever.
"It's within our contracts to do [a solo album]... There's no rules, you can do it way under budget so it doesn't cost a lot and the only thing I can do [with mine,] is promote it as much as I can so for the amount of the effort spent, the money that goes into it, that I do what I can for it." (Slash, Metal Edge Magazine, 04/95)
How different the band history would've been if this album, or even an EP, would've been turned into an Axl solo release and released for profit. After that, he would've gone back to do the 'real' GNR album.
#658 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash and Axl friends again? » 554 weeks ago
One major void that still exists is the one left by the original Guns ‘N’ Roses. Following an interview earlier this summer in which Slash said he and Guns singer Axl Rose had rekindled their friendship, rumors of a reunion have been rampant.
Add in the fact that the current incarnation of Guns ‘N’ Roses is nearly all but disbanded, and rock aficionados are salivating at the idea of a full-scale reconciliation of the lineup that helped change the face of the genre with 1987’s “Appetite for Destruction” and 1991’s “Use Your Illusion I and II.”
Slash politely declined to broach the subject. With a new album in his sights, Slash is firmly committed to his current project, and he’s excited as always to bring his brand of rock to audiences worldwide.
#659 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 554 weeks ago
I read all of CD Whispers a little over a week ago as a refresher course and was blown away by its origins. The 2000-01 period was always my main focal point but was speechless reading the 95-97 chapters. The origins of the Chinese Democracy saga is Slash running for the hills with those Snakepit demos and unfortunately there was no turning back at that point. Its crazy to think that those songs which Axl claims to not like altered the destiny of the band, and had Slash never took them Chinese Democracy never happens. Instead of the 13 year wait for one album, you get 4 or 5 albums instead.
"The coolest omen," says Slash, "was the night I recorded three songs and mixed them that night, which I normally wouldn't do. I went to bed with the DAT in my hand, all 14 songs... And it was like Godzilla came to town... The time was 4:31 a.m., Jan. 17, 1994. The Godzilla in question was L.A.'s 6.7 earthquake." (Slash, Rolling Stone, 04/95)
The earth shook after that fateful tape was finished. 
#660 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 554 weeks ago
Atari I will always doubt that story. Slash confessing all his sins to beta just sounds like something out of their fantasies.
Reminds one of that Activision/Guitar Hero 3 lawsuit from 2010, eh?
On February 14, 2010, Guns N' Roses played a Valentine's Day show at the Rose Bar at Gramercy Park in New York City. Tim Riley from Activision was in attendance and approached Rose after the show. In tears he apologized for the way in which Rose and Guns N' Roses had been mistreated by Activision. He said "I can't sleep at night" and asked Rose to forgive him.

Imagine this guy (Tim Riley, formerly from Activision) meeting Axl and breaking into tears. Plausible, if Riley knew what to expect and realized it was the quickest way to defuse the situation. If it actually happened, Riley seemed to put up the most audacious show, which Axl's lawyers faithfully reproduced in text. This was - likely - to show Riley admitted culpability and that Axl deserved that special treatment. The alternative is that they fell for Riley's (supposed) act. There's also the off-chance that Tim Riley is a really sensitive guy.
As for that visit, let's take a closer look.
In October of 2005 Slash made an unannounced 5:30 AM visit to Axl Rose's house. Not appearing to be under the influence, Slash came to inform Axl that: "Duff was spineless," "Scott was a fraud," that he "hates Matt Sorum" and that in this ongoing war, contest or whatever anyone wants to call it that Slash has waged against Axl for the better part of 20 years, that Axl has proven himself "the stronger." Based on his conduct in showing up at Rose's home, Axl was hopeful that Slash would live up to his pronouncements that he wanted to end the war and move on with life.
First off, everything Slash allegedly says is conveniently taken out of context. Let's try putting things into perspective. Libertad was at its early stages. Scott was pushing the concept album idea. Slash, likely, just wanted them to get into a room, bang out some rock, press rec, release the album and hit the road. That's Slash's approach to music, it's really a no-frills approach in terms of song-writing and producing. Like Lemmy, he just wants to get the job done, as that is the job. He would've resented Scott's idea and scorned it as 'phony'.
Whatever had driven Slash into that situation was Perla.
Through a series of hairpin turns and steep grades, Latigo Canyon Road winds a couple of thousand feet up to the top of an arid hill near the Point Dume section of Malibu... A lighted star on the side of Axl's house can be seen for miles by drivers on the Pacific Coast Highway. - RS, 2000
They say it takes a good while to actually make those turns. Slash knew the road, Axl'd lived there since 1992. The house Illusions built. He drinks, likely, to calm down. Then, the big gate, security camera and a door phone. This is as far as Izzy got in November '99.
Slash was visible to Beta the minute he stepped out of the car.
He was let in through the gates, all the way to the front door.
Both Beta and Slash seem to agree on the story thus far.
5.30AM. Axl time. Perla would've possibly worked on Slash for weeks on the matter and finally got him sauced enough to pull through. He had a note on him ('Let's work this out. Call me. - Slash.'). Beta was on the door. How she reacted to Slash remains a mystery. A bit chilly? A bit smug? Here was the man they'd spent so many moons grieving over at La Casa Rosa.
(How's VR working out for you, Slash?)
I tell you, Scott's a fraud with all that concept album stuff. We're a rock band, simply put. Matt's into the idea, I think, I hate Matt being so excited about it, that desire to be 'fashionable' or whatever. Sure, Duff... Tell you the truth, Duff's spineless, you know? I talked to him about that concept album thing and he agreed with me! But then, he had words with Scott and he was like, let's see where it goes.
(And you had something to say to Axl?)
Yeah, about this ongoing war, contest or whatever anyone wants to call it that's been going on between me and him for the past 20 years... Axl's the stronger one in keeping that thing alive, you know? Me, I'm sick of having to deal with this Guns stuff in the midst of my other stuff. I just want to end this war and move on with my life.
(I'll be sure to deliver that in verbatim.)
Could've went down like so.

