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#731 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why do people tend to take Tommy's word for everything? » 122 weeks ago
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That being said there are no vocals for Oklahoma in the locker leaks. Very possible he added them later considering what you mention, but why wasn't it already finished? The song dated back years and judging by how good the instrumental is you would think it would be a priority to include on your comeback album..
I gotta sleep lol so i'll just stick to this bit for now..
But as to why wasn't it finished? Probably the same reason YCBM or Dont Cry wasn't on AFD, it wasn't ready. I'm not just saying it's an Axl time thing although I'm glad he didn't rush the two examples i just mentioned and let them be untill he felt they were ready.
Thing is if you look at pretty much everything they have released there are always songs held back for future releases. Its not a modern thing, like you say TIL came out in 2008 but was around in 1991. On UYI YCBM Dont Cry November Rain Back Off bitch were all around years before but held back as they were not "ready"
Hell even AFD had songs on it that had been around for years. People draw a clear deliniation between era's but some patterns are consistent, and the pattern of keeping songs on the back burner has been a constant throughout there entire history.
I remember Sorum saying the last song he worked on was I Ain't Goin Down in an interview a few years back, which obviously implies they went back to it again post UYI.
Oklaholma is so old that it was said to be the first song they walked in the studio with according to https://warmaudio.com/artist-david-dominguez/ They came in with it in January 1998. In 25 years I can believe they did it, but held it back for CD2 I just hope I hear it without Hardskool/Absurd production
#732 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why do people tend to take Tommy's word for everything? » 122 weeks ago
Merck talked about Axl's "muse" back in 2006 and said it wasn't up to Axl if that muse was present or not. Suggesting he wanted to record but lacked inspiration to create anything good. Unfortunately that situation might be more relevant for the big gun instrumentals, like Oklahoma, because with those the pressure was all the greater for Axl to add vocals that could live up to the epicness of the song.
Better, Sorry vocals were added after the locker leaks sessions, and there was also reportedly some work done by Axl in 06/07, but apart from that I think he has felt no need to go into a studio. Creatively he's done for and he knows it.
Could be true however Merk was very experienced even at that stage. By which I mean saying "it isn't up to Axl if that muse is present or not" is a quite slick way to acknowlegde that things may not be where they want them to be and yet also deftly deflects the blame from Axl, even painting him in a way to make people feel sorry for the guy.
I mean merck managed Morrissey that guy knew how to deal with difficult people, at least all the way up until he didn't.
TIL remix vocals sound possibly 2010'ish to me but who knows
Soul monster is only an instrumental in the sense that's how we have heard it from the locker leaks and probably how we think of it due to that.
In reality Axl said himself in the forum chats that it has vocals, that he recorded them around christmas and that there either "dark" or "heavy" (i forget the wording)
Oklahoma was on a setlist at some point in the early 2000's and I doubt it would be without vocals. Also in soundchecks last year they were running through a song that sounded quite like it, I can believe that it has vocals and that it may even be one of the songs Slash and Duff have recorded on.
#733 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 122 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Lurked here for years on and off, seems like an interesting time to take the plunge and signup
I recognize your name from somewhere...I assume one of the handful of times I've checked mygnr or HTGTH the past few years.
Unless you're from the good old days.
Either way.... welcome to our insane asylum.
Not nearly as active as it was back in the day but the only one worth being on at this point IMO. Too much shit posting on the few remaining GNR forums for my tastes.
Edit
Not trying to put down other forums...it's just not my thing anymore.
Been around on and off since 2006 started with Newgnr.com although lurked for a few years before that. Never been on HTGTH so must of been mygnr. None of them are as active as they were back in the day tbf, although like you say people sadly are passing away like Brodie.
God even the concept of a proboards forum is old school now i guess
#734 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why do people tend to take Tommy's word for everything? » 122 weeks ago
He always seemed quite a straight shooter to be fair, even if he said something that later turned out not to happen I believed he believed it when he said it. Never got the sense he was trying to palm people off with what they wanted to hear like others may have done.
#735 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 122 weeks ago
Lurked here for years on and off, seems like an interesting time to take the plunge and signup
