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#761 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 784 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

On topic..I'll consider it 'tide turning' when CD2 or whatever its called is being talked about in depth by Axl and UMG releases concrete info about it.

I know man, until an album is on the shelves, to me everything else is just a fart in the wind.

#762 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 784 weeks ago

The myspace argument is bollocks imo, every multisonged music player on those types of pages has the most listens on the first song and then it decreases all the way down, I've seen it on umpteen different bands pages.

I believe MTV described Chinese Democracys decent off the charts as a "missile like plummet", hard to argue with cause it sunk faster than a metal shite in a magnetic toilet.
But for me thats down the lack of band involvment, especially Axl, in the release. Its a good example of how quickly the wind changes in pop music when you dont play the game and stop having your face and story in every available media outlet. There was a buzz when the album was released, people were excited, music media was excited, but instead of a band coming out with all guns blazing, staring out from every magazine cover,  video premiers, bigging up their album on every radio station and talk show - there was nothing, less than nothing actually, it was a vaccum and it sucked the momentum out of everything.
I noticed the album getting talked about al the time in the first week or so on UK radio stations, highly positive for the most part, but it dwindled away rapidly when it became clear nothing else was forthcoming. These guys want something for them to big you up, if this was Slash's album he would (and did!) do the rounds and all these radio guys and magazines waxed lyrical about him and his album cause they knew there was a chance of getting something from him, even just a short phonecall or a soundbite, but its enough for them.
Who was the guy flying the flag for Chinese Democracy in the UK, and in other countries, the guy who they fell back on. He was on the radio, on TV, in magazines doing the rounds providing a voice these outlets were crying out for... Mick Wall. Mick fucking Wall.
This was Axls moment and he did nothing, so all these media outlets just kicked CD to the kerb and moved on to more relevant bands and musicans, people who are out there playing the game and are recognisable to their audience.

Add to it that Axl is an "old man" and Guns N Roses is "old man music". I've heard that so much from teenagers, and this is the audience that a band has to appeal to if it wants to sell millions of records. You dont do that by sitting at home boycotting your own album, you have to be innovative, imaginative, enthusiastic and get out there and work hard to sell your product to them.

Axl sat on his couch eating pizza and drinking beer, pretending none of it was happening, small wonder that the "most anticipated album of all time" of his took a missile like plummet of the chart.

#763 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 784 weeks ago

Noone in GNR has ever been hacked, after Tommys shenanigans I reckon its become a running joke.

#764 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Vinyl LPs » 784 weeks ago

mister saint laurent wrote:

I noticed amazon.com only had 1 copy left of the 2010 version of chinese democracy on vinyl, so I decided to buy it. I ended up buyin the 2010 CD on a different site as well as I think it's funny that not only is the Best Buy version out of print, but the 2010 version is out of print now too. I know the only difference is the barcode, but I thought they would be funny to have. Got the red hand version of the CD in the mail today as well.

Does anybody have the 2010 version of chinese on vinyl? Does it sound any different from the 2008 Best Buy version?

For that matter, how does the international version on vinyl sound compared to the '08 US version and 2010 US version?

Any help would be appreciated.

Same problems in audio quality with the euro version, one of the worst sounding vinyls I've ever bought. Only difference was noone outside the US reported buying vinyls that were scratched, chipped and covered in fingerprints.
Workers in either the factory or the stores must have been using the things for frisbee practice, wonder if it was all part of the "sabotage".

#765 Re: Guns N' Roses » Cool/Candid Axl Video » 785 weeks ago

Dunno man, he's a human being who has different emotions. I'm sure if you video taped me randomly you'd get a very mixed bag of emotions displayed to judge me from, good bad n' ugly.

#766 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 785 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
Riad wrote:

God I wish Frank played on the illusions. He's excellent.

Axl's face at the end of that is priceless "Oh yeahhhhh. "

Frank is hands down the BEST drummer to ever play for Guns N' Roses.

Funny I'm going right off Franks playing, its so pedestrian and unimaginative. He reminds me off Adler though, not that good technically, but pretty good a hitting things hard.

Brain is hands down the BEST drummer to ever play for Guns N' Roses 19

#767 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 785 weeks ago

Ron is so good on this track, so much for his naysayers  claims he is unable to play slow and with soul, he captures the emotion of this song perfectly. I cant fathom why DJ gets that small solo, especially as it highlights the gulf in ability imo.

Wish they had uploaded the version from Cordoba, Argentina - Axl sounded much better than he does on this one. He looks much better though than Rio, wonder if he is keeping the jackets on most of the shows now to sweat off more water weight, his face is a lot less swollen than Rio for sure.

#768 Re: Guns N' Roses » Cool/Candid Axl Video » 785 weeks ago

He sounds tipsy 16

I'd love to see him bury the hatchet with Slash just to see the 180° all his fucked in the head online minions would do.

#769 Re: Guns N' Roses » Cordoba, Argentina - Orfeo Superdomo (Oct 12, 2011) » 786 weeks ago

DCK wrote:

I dig the fact Estranged goes a tiny bit quicker than it should. It makes the song so much better. They slowed it way too much down in 93, now it's perfect.

I mean, fucking hell. The song is an absolute masterpiece of epic proportions.

If Bucket had laid his hands on creating those solos, I'm sure it would have been even better. Wops, did I say that out loud? bucket

Estranged is a masterpiece, the pinnacle of Guns N' Roses. It shits on every other song in the set.

#770 Re: Guns N' Roses » Cordoba, Argentina - Orfeo Superdomo (Oct 12, 2011) » 786 weeks ago

They love their rock its not just an Axl thing, other bands like Iron Maiden get just as wild a reception, its awesome!

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