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#941 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

Bono wrote:
Mikkamakka wrote:
ottosporteman wrote:

In my opinion Axl has one big problem: GNR as it is today has so many faces to the casual audience.

In old Guns it was Axl, Slash and Duff. Izzy was never on the spotlight, drummers were never a point of concern to the average Joe.

In new Guns you had Moby. Then Chris Vrenna. Then An ever growing liat of guitar players that were enlisted but never even became members of the band but milked on the publicity GNR gave 'em. Then Tommy. Finck. Years of silence and the Buckethead. Finck again. Fortus. Bumblefoot. (i wont be numbering drummers and kb players for the sake of argument but you get the point). Ashba.

I think the opposite. The band didn't have enough faces. The out-of-the-loop guys who can't talk about anything and didn't have (don't have) the chance to show their talent with new music will never be recognized. Never. A mask and a yellow rain coat will only make you a weirdo and not a legend, if that's all you can give to the public, for whatever reasons (Axl tongue).
Randy Rhoads became Randy Rhoads and Zakk Wylde became Zakk Wylde cause they wrote helluva new stuff. Not because they played Iommi's stuff better or worse for 2 decades.

ottosporteman wrote:

That's the main problem, people cannot relate to a Guns N Roses anymore, just to Axl.

I see two solutions: assume Axl is GnR and do not try to sell a band image
Or
Negotiate long term commitment to release and touring and set what is GNR to a five men lineup, with others being Teddies, Tracies and Robertas as in additional touring musicians.

Something like this:
Guns N' Roses is Axl, Tommy, Ashba, Bumble and Ferrer. On tour we're joined by pittman, reed and fortus.

The problem is the lack of new music. Period. The fact that they are employees who are too afraid to talk about anything (and Axl barely talks - if he does, it often makes things worse or just a vague, double' talkin' bullshit), just makes it even worse. Axl can send out band pictures with every press release, it won't change anything.
They can cry as much they want about people still associate Slash with Guns N' Roses - hell, it'll always be the case. The guy just did too much great music to be forgotten. Write and release a shitload of quality new music and even other people will be associated with Guns N' Roses. Then we'd have two or more eras in the band's career, just like Ozzy had a Black Sabbath era with Tommi, an early solo era with mostly Randy and a long solo era with Zakk.
But in GN'R's case it's the Live Era with Slash, then the Dead Era, and now we're in the Zombie era with 70-80 percent of the material they play live is still written by Slash, Duff and Izzy. What a joke. And Axl is crying about Slash's image being associated with GN'R too much? Wake up, you're making it worse every night.
Man up, write and release new music, then play it instead of 75 percent of AFD and a growing percent of UYI. Choose new covers if needed, but not the ones people associate with classic GN'R. Don't live in the past, don't try to sell that it's the same band, just 'some players changed'. Live in the present and work, work, work. You still have a few years to prove your and your new new band's worth.

There is NOTHING else to say. Mikka just said it all and nailed it.  22

EXACTLY.

Without music being RELEASED, no line-up or new chapter will be even mentioned on the history books.

#942 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

In my opinion Axl has one big problem: GNR as it is today has so many faces to the casual audience.

In old Guns it was Axl, Slash and Duff. Izzy was never on the spotlight, drummers were never a point of concern to the average Joe.

In new Guns you had Moby. Then Chris Vrenna. Then An ever growing liat of guitar players that were enlisted but never even became members of the band but milked on the publicity GNR gave 'em. Then Tommy. Finck. Years of silence and the Buckethead. Finck again. Fortus. Bumblefoot. (i wont be numbering drummers and kb players for the sake of argument but you get the point). Ashba.

That's the main problem, people cannot relate to a Guns N Roses anymore, just to Axl.

I see two solutions: assume Axl is GnR and do not try to sell a band image
Or
Negotiate long term commitment to release and touring and set what is GNR to a five men lineup, with others being Teddies, Tracies and Robertas as in additional touring musicians.

Something like this:
Guns N' Roses is Axl, Tommy, Ashba, Bumble and Ferrer. On tour we're joined by pittman, reed and fortus.

#943 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

The Talk of a Randy Rhoads character for Axl is interesting.

While many people still love Black Sabbath, to people I know Ozzy's solo career is almost now what defines him, from Randy's amazing playing then on with Zakk.

For my taste I don't think Robin was that guy....but it's an interesting idea - that Axl could find a writing partner so strong that it characterised a new era.

Perhaps that's who Ashba is to him, nowadays?

#944 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

And this is the You COuld Be Mine Director's Cut

#946 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

-D- wrote:
smoke wrote:
-D- wrote:

Shit, at this point, my fave member is Teddy Zig Zag

Bah- the only sensible one was Ole.

Yeah but Rob had cooler hair.

Not as cool as Tracey's.
She has the best work post GN'R.
http://www.traceyamos.com/
(NOT):haha:

#947 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

[youtube]BWzhC-UQOXg&feature=fvst[/youtube]

They are clips from the unreleased Mr. Brownstone video and the director's cut from You COuld Be Mine.

#949 Re: Guns N' Roses » Richard Fortus interview » 733 weeks ago

Yeah, I forgot to add that part! Just did right when you were replying! 16

#950 Guns N' Roses » Richard Fortus interview » 733 weeks ago

otto
Replies: 29

http://www.glidemagazine.com/articles/5 … roses.html

Nothing really new but this part got my eye:

You’ve been out a long time with GNR, haven’t you?

Yeah and I was out with Thin Lizzy last summer. Then I came back and did three months with them in Europe, came straight back and I’ve been out with Guns since then. We went straight in to rehearsals and recording and down to South America for six weeks and then started in the US and we’ve been gone the whole time. So I just got home.

So what else do you have going on for the rest of the year?

In May, I go back to Europe with Guns and luckily, Thin Lizzy is going to be out with us, which is going to be awesome. They’re going to be supporting us so I’ll be able to play a couple of songs with them every night. But I’ll be out with Guns in May, June and July and then we have to finish up some more recording and hopefully get the record out and be on tour in the fall in the States I’m hoping.

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