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#9551 Re: The Garden » Man marries dog to ward off curse » 930 weeks ago

"On the advice of an astrologer and others, he decided to marry a bitch to get cured."

One of my best mates tried the same thing, hasn't worked wink

#9553 Re: Guns N' Roses » If there is a reunion, where do people stand? » 931 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:

Snakepit is better than Contraband, and he initially rejected that album.

Which is just bizzare, I guess it is very old-school style riffing in the style of Aerosmith and AFD...so if Axl was obsessed with doing something new at the time then it would have seemed limiting creatively speaking.

Guitar wise...I think Snakepit 1 is better all of VR and actually even a lot of GNR songs. Like in terms of Slash's parts...way more complex in Snakepit...just amazing....

#9554 Re: Guns N' Roses » LedZAerial - Finck Project (Led Zeppelin tribute band) » 931 weeks ago

Yeah Robin used to be in  Cirque du Soleil before GNR i think.

I remeber Axl was giving him shit about it when they toured here cos perchance there was a Cirque du Soleil show playing next door to the arena.

Too bad they didn't get Robert Plant in - then Robin could have played in Led Zep and GNR wink wink (jk)

#9555 Re: Guns N' Roses » How we will know for sure that CD is done » 931 weeks ago

I used to have a great interview on VHS where axl is talkintg about the delays associated with UYI, and its really uncanny how much of what he said about it could latter be applied to CD.

#9556 Re: Guns N' Roses » If there is a reunion, where do people stand? » 931 weeks ago

Wow....I think the riffs on snakepit 1 = as good as AFD riffs...if axl was on that record it would be as good as any GNR release I think...

#9557 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Did You Guys Think Of This Rant...? » 931 weeks ago

Axl wrote:

Now I was uh, perusing. I was reading all about my integrity, 'cause that's what I'm known for I guess - selling out my integrity. That's why I'm here with you tonight because I just don't give a fuck I guess. Yeah, that's why we worked real hard at this. That's why these guys worked real hard at being in a band that they can get abused for "because they're the guys in the way of stopping the old band from getting together." That's horseshit.

I think has a point in this part. I don't really think he has ever done anything that suggests he doesn't have integrity. Using the name when it wasn't only his talent that made the band famous is not so much a lack of integrity as it is either misguided and arrogant or perhaps just desperate that he wants to carry on and can't get on with the old guys. It's also wrong to think the new guys are stopping the old guys from being in the band. If the new guys were gone we'd most likely have nothing at all


Axl wrote:

The truth is they didn't want to be here for you at this level and they don't want to take it farther.

There seems very little evidence to substiantiate this claim. I know axl is saying the guys are very different behind closed doors - so we should give him some benifit I guess. But when you look at it - most of the show cancellations etc back in the day were caused by Axl's emotional problems at the time, and these days well...ok..izzy seems content to be small time, but addler is constantly complaining how he was kicked out and wants to be back at that level, Gilby tried to get big again with Rockstar, and Slash Duff and Matt have formed VR which is a grammy award winning successful band. VR and Slash are often critized for over promotion and 'selling out' which would surely be indicators that they want to do just the oppoisite of what Axl is claiming here.

Axl wrote:

[i] I mean, that's their business right? But not at my expense or yours. You've been played. You've been lied to. You've been used. You've been manipulated so that they can ride around in limos and jam with Snoop Dogg or whoever the fuck. I don't care. That's their business, but they shouldn't really do it at your expense or mine.

I guess its because he was upset and this stuff is personal to him. But this really makes no sence. How has a fan been manipulated so Slash can jam with snoop dog? And how is it at Axl's expense? The only way this makes any sence would be if Axl thinks that the old guys trade on their fame and don't deserve their fame except using Axl's talents...which is misguided. Slash has a trademark guitar sound and tone, Izzy is a known songwriter etc....i'm not denying that Axl is a one of a kind genius...but the reason GNR was so good was because there were several people in the band with amazing talents....

Axl wrote:

[i] "You know without Axl and Slash we wouldn't have November Rain and Estranged" .. Well you don't know what the fuck I went through to get that guy to play those songs. You don't know about the argument we had at A&M studios, because Duff and Slash came to me going "We're not gonna do that song Axl, we're not gonna do this song, no, no, we're just not gonna do it." .. But I wanna do it. We'll do it right now. This song is called 'patience'."

I'm sure there would have been some friction in the band about the different styles at times. I mean you listen to Jungle, then you listen Estranged and its very different styles of music. I mean Axl brings the queen, Slash brings the Aerosmith, Izzy the Stones, Duff the punk etc....that's what made the band awesome.

I'd love to know more context about this story cos Patience's guitar is very much a Slash's style - that country arpegiated riffing he does a lot in snakepit and vr. So its unlikely he hated the song in general. Maybe it was the placing it on lies. But i guess Axl was there and we wernt. But my real issue with this statement is the implication that cos the guys were hard to get involved in certain songs that they didnt then contribute to them properly. Even if it was like getting blood from a stone - you can't top that tone of Slash's on Estranged, and one of the reasons November Rain was a critical and commercial success is those guitar solos. Its just a fact.

I mean its well known the creative process was painful for everyone in the band. The music on UYI is said to have been finished years before the vocals, but no one says that cos it was hard to get Axl to finish the record that the record somehow isnt good, or that he doesn't deserve his credit.

Bottom line, i can accept it if they never get back together, and people shouldn't blame axl alone. However people should also remember that it wasn't only Axl who made gnr the awesome band they were.

#9558 Re: Guns N' Roses » Interesting read on Axl, touring, albums in Slash's biography » 931 weeks ago

Oh really? Cool smile

Immagine what a great read that would be!! It'd be really interesting to get Axl's perspective on so much stuff. And if he is as good an author as he is a lyricist...I immagine it would be a great journey....

#9559 Re: Guns N' Roses » Interesting read on Axl, touring, albums in Slash's biography » 931 weeks ago

DoubleTalkingJive wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

Didn't Baz say Axl is has written a massive diary of events or did I dream that? Something about 10,000 pages or something???

I don't recall reading that but Baz talks so much he could have 16 16

Damn...i can't remember where I got it from...might be my ass!! I think i remember him saying something in that recent radio interview with BBF and Eddie Trunk. I thought he said something like he said to axl that Axl should write a book once and axl said something like "I am, its up to 10,000 pages" or soemthing wierd. But you know what i was insanely tired when i listened to that broadcast...so maybe i made it up - or maybe he was talking about some other band not axl or something!

#9560 Re: Guns N' Roses » Interesting read on Axl, touring, albums in Slash's biography » 931 weeks ago

the_real_jessica wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

I'm so sick of people calling slash a liar.

I didn't call slash a liar, i said ALL OF THEM HAVE TWISTED MEMORIES.

Hey Sorry Jessica I wasn't speaking specifically about you, i ment more the routene bashing he gets at HTGTH smile

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