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Axlin16
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

Axlin16 wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Beta and co will hold GNR back so much. It's only a matter of time before they fuck this up.

Seems to be the "takeover" is complete.

They finally OWN Guns N' Roses.


Makes me sick.

I feel bad for Axl, because HE IS RIGHT. And so is Beta. Management are fucking sharks.


Problem that Axl doesn't see...


So are beggars & hangers on. At least management doesn't pretend to love you. Beggars & hangers on do.

-D-
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

-D- wrote:
faldor wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

I know what he said, but one could gather that is what his point was.

By "reunite", I am talking the rnrhof performance. He is open to it.

Yeah, that's what it sounded like.  At the same time though, I always said I wouldn't want to see them reunite if their hearts weren't into it, even if it's just for one night.  And it certainly seems like the rift between the 2 main players has not let up, and will not anytime soon.  So IF they do perform, the two of them will probably stay as far away from each other as possible.  Not sure how I'd feel about that.  It'd be sad to see in a way.

And yes, once again Axl proves a full scale reunion will NEVER happen.  But people will continue to believe what they want to believe.

I started reading the article and thought to myself, AGAIN!  He fired
ANOTHER manager.  And as is often the case, all the blame is cast elsewhere.  But as I kept reading, it got a little better and I liked what I read. 

How long before Beta, Fernando, and Vanessa are fired though?  That could be tough, like Gagarin pointed out.  I'm assuming they have Axl's best interests at heart and unlike other managers, aren't consumed with a reunion.  But if something does go wrong, and inevitably it will, who does the blame fall on then?

Why would u say that?

2 years ago Slash was a cancer and better never heard from and removed

now he seems open to playing with him one last time

Saikin
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

Saikin wrote:
-D- wrote:
Saikin wrote:
Mikkamakka wrote:

Izzy wrote primitve Stones-riffs. Slash made them Guns N' Roses. Period.

Slash wrote WTTJ. Slash wrote SCOM. Slash wrote PC. Slash wrote CW, NR, Estranged, Locomotive and Coma. Slash wrote all the solos. Period.

Slash made Guns N' Roses musically. Slash amde Guns N' roses Guns N' Roses and not fuckin' Hollywood Rose. Period.

Deal with it.

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November Rain (one writer)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_rain
Estranged (one writer) - http://en.httphmm/www.gnrevolution.com/post.php?tid=11366&qid=218030wikipedia.org/wiki/Estranged
Jungle (2 writers) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_the_jungle
Sweet Child (3 writers)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Child_o%27_Mine
PC (4 writers)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_City
CW (3 writers) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_%28song%29
Locomotive (2 writers)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive … omotive.22
Coma (2 writers)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma_%28song%29

Now, remind me which of these Slash wrote?  Funny how two of the songs you wrote (in which are considered by some GNR's best songs) were solely written by Axl.

Deal with it.

U can't be serious

So I guess Axl hummed the guitar parts to him.

You seem to mistake adding guitar parts with actually writing a song.  There is a HUGE difference there. 

Take Soundgarden for example.  Cornell has written a majority of their material, even though he doesn't play the solos or lead on all of it.  He writes it, shows it to the other guys, and they play it and add things here and there.  In the end, he wrote the song.

-D-
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

-D- wrote:

Take away Slash's guitar

NR is a good song

not an all time classic

faldor
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

faldor wrote:

Like I said, he seems open to playing with him ONE last time for the FANS, because he feels like that's what's expected.  He's not doing it because he has a soft spot in his heart for the guy and all is forgiven.

He outlined once again that he hasn't gotten over whatever it is about Slash that bothers him and a FULL SCALE reunion is completely out of the question.

Axlin16
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

Axlin16 wrote:

What would be the cool moment of all time...


If Axl & Slash found some sort of closure and peace looking eye-to-eye at each other closing that place out to Paradise City.

That would be a proper "final episode" to Guns N' Roses.

That's all I ever wanted. I didn't need a reunion tour. I just needed closure. A proper end.

Smoking Guns
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

Smoking Guns wrote:

Axlin08, I like that thought, PC would be awesome.

Now, about this Slash writing stuff.  I swear, ya'll believe the credits from the fucking album booklet.  Slash was robbed on both Estranged and NR.  Axl wanted all the credit on both, and Slash didn't fight for it, but he regrets doing so.  THOSE WERE FUCKING PIANO PIECES that were handed to Slash and Slash had to make arrangements and turn them into all time rock classics.  Slash lead the actual recording of those songs.  Not Axl, then they would send the tapes back and forth and shit and agree on them. Then after Slash was done over seeing the recording, he went off with Mike Clink for 3 weeks and did all his solos and redo this other scratch guitar parts.  Axl had the ideas, yes, but this whole "he didn't write the song" thing towards Slash is so stupid.  These songs are nothing like their original form.  And they are that way due to Slash.  Not Izzy, or Duff, or Adler, or Steven.  Slash.

faldor
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

faldor wrote:

I think you're both right to a point.  I don't think anyone can deny Slash's importance to GNR and his overall greatness.  Of course he came up with some iconic solos that helped enhance some of GNR's greatest songs and overall legacy.

However, if you're going off of strict songwriting from scratch.  Axl and Izzy demolish Slash in that case. 

The fact remains though, all 5 guys meshed together perfectly, regardless of who wrote or didn't write what.  I do think Axl is being a little unfair when speaking about Slash's contributions to the band.  I guess what he might be saying is that another guitarist could've come in and done what Slash did.  I'm not so sure about that, but I guess that could be argued.

Gibbo
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

Gibbo wrote:

Just imagin what sweet child would iv sound like if robin finck had made the intro to it be about as good as the intro to better
i just the think the old gnr was a group effort

Mikkamakka
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl

Mikkamakka wrote:
Saikin wrote:
Mikkamakka wrote:
Saikin wrote:

I think he meant more that he realizes he's in a tough spot.  He can compromise what he believes to not disappoint the fans, or he can take the beating everyone will give him for not playing with them. 

To me, the best part of this is the new music part. 

And it shouldn't come as a shock to ANYONE that Axl and Izzy were the key writers in GNR.  Izzy was MASSIVELY more important than Slash when it came to writing.  Slash was the face of the guitar work, and the soloist, therefore he gets all the credit.

Izzy wrote primitve Stones-riffs. Slash made them Guns N' Roses. Period.

Slash wrote WTTJ. Slash wrote SCOM. Slash wrote PC. Slash wrote CW, NR, Estranged, Locomotive and Coma. Slash wrote all the solos. Period.

Slash made Guns N' Roses musically. Slash amde Guns N' roses Guns N' Roses and not fuckin' Hollywood Rose. Period.

Deal with it.

14:laugh::laugh::laugh:

November Rain (one writer)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_rain
Estranged (one writer) - http://en.httphmm/www.gnrevolution.com/post.php?tid=11366&qid=218030wikipedia.org/wiki/Estranged
Jungle (2 writers) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_the_jungle
Sweet Child (3 writers)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Child_o%27_Mine
PC (4 writers)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_City
CW (3 writers) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_%28song%29
Locomotive (2 writers)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive … omotive.22
Coma (2 writers)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma_%28song%29

Now, remind me which of these Slash wrote?  Funny how two of the songs you wrote (in which are considered by some GNR's best songs) were solely written by Axl.

Deal with it.

You either don't know what you're talking about or simply lying to discredit him. Both are very disturbing @ a GN'R forum.

You and your likes like to cite ASCAP to glorify Robin's contribution to GN'R songs. Well, do that in Slash's case, too. Unlike in the album booklet, he gets credit for the songs Axl robbed from him.
BTW anyone with half a brain cannot deny that WTTJ is a Slash song. He made the riffs and the solos. He made SCOM with his magnificent intro and those great guitar solos. He wrote all the other GN'R classics I mentioned. Only two GN'R classics were written by Izzy, YCBM and Don't Cry, with Slash's massive contribution to the first. (Slash is credited for both @ ASCAP.)
Did the others contribute to Slash's songs? Yes. Did they adviced changes, or had song structure advices? Yes. So did Slash with the others. It was a band, for Axl's sake. But for Axlites Slash was not more than a guitar amplifier. Fuck that shit. I don't give negative karma, but from this point I declare war against history revisionist. Fuck this Stalinist, Axlist bullshit.

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