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Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Me thinks you're confused on the definition of terror. I know co-opting words is the in thing to do with the left. Rape now means Lena Dunham going back to someone's house and him not asking before he put his fingers inside of her.  But terrorism is linked to foreign ideologies trying to use fear and violence to change a group. Islam isn't an American religion, regardless of all the melting pot bullshit you've been told. Also, what the fuck does an attack in Canada have to do with America. And how was that not reported?

I thinks you're confused on the definition of terror like you are on locker room banter. (Amazing you actually brought Lena Dunham into this topic)

Terrorist Attack

Noun    1.    terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aimsterrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
coup de main, surprise attack - an attack without warning

So how was what Dylan Roof did terrorism under that definition?

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: US Politics Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Me thinks you're confused on the definition of terror. I know co-opting words is the in thing to do with the left. Rape now means Lena Dunham going back to someone's house and him not asking before he put his fingers inside of her.  But terrorism is linked to foreign ideologies trying to use fear and violence to change a group. Islam isn't an American religion, regardless of all the melting pot bullshit you've been told. Also, what the fuck does an attack in Canada have to do with America. And how was that not reported?

I thinks you're confused on the definition of terror like you are on locker room banter. (Amazing you actually brought Lena Dunham into this topic)

Terrorist Attack

Noun    1.    terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aimsterrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
coup de main, surprise attack - an attack without warning

So how was what Dylan Roof did terrorism under that definition?

a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims,
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:

I thinks you're confused on the definition of terror like you are on locker room banter. (Amazing you actually brought Lena Dunham into this topic)

Terrorist Attack

Noun    1.    terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aimsterrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
coup de main, surprise attack - an attack without warning

So how was what Dylan Roof did terrorism under that definition?

a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims,
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature


What were his political or religious aims?

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

Here's the legal definition of terrorism in the US:

Title 22 of the U.S. Code, Section 2656f(d) defines terrorism as “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.” [1]

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: US Politics Thread

misterID wrote:

racism is based on an ideology. Racist ideology.

terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature

Honestly not that difficult to comprehend.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: US Politics Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Here's the legal definition of terrorism in the US:

Title 22 of the U.S. Code, Section 2656f(d) defines terrorism as “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.” [1]

Your little snippet proves it also, he was trying to start a race war, to influence an audience, you could even say it was political as he wanted to create a white state.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

Contact his attorneys then. He was wrongly charged with a federal hate crime. We need to try him as a domestic terrorist and send him to GITMO.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: US Politics Thread

misterID wrote:

The federal goverment has the ability to choose the law they want to prosecute him under. He's a piece of garbage, why does it matter to you?

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: US Politics Thread

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Islam isn't an American religion,

This.

Randall Flagg wrote:

Also, what the fuck does an attack in Canada have to do with America. And how was that not reported?

To be fair the WH released a list of what they felt were 75 underreportted terrorist attacks, including France, Germany, Belgium etc... So bringing up Canada was legit even tho it's not America. Your point about it not being terrorism, while I disagree or your not seeing the forest thru the trees, is a different argument.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: US Politics Thread

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Here's the legal definition of terrorism in the US:

Title 22 of the U.S. Code, Section 2656f(d) defines terrorism as “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.” [1]

What listed here disqualifies Canada?

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