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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 4 weeks ago

Nothing, sorry.

Livenation are saying touring will resume next year, that's it

#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 19 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:
sp1at wrote:

Separately, on another day maybe a month later, he was asked about his comments album releasing an album with the current songs, and that received no comment.

Regarding when he was asked about that, and gave no comment. Was that after the current lawsuits were known about publicly?

Before

#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 19 weeks ago

Blackstar wrote:
sp1at wrote:

I'm just throwing that in there for discussion. Twas on the net.

Prior to all the lawsuit stuff, the latest from GN'R was all positive. There is new, the beginnings of new GN'R material that is not related to CD, there. There was also wording that some historic older material was possible. Slash is expecting this later next year. I asked though about his previous assertions that there was an album for all the post CD material that had been release, and there was no response. So, I don't know.

Interesting. What exactly is Slash expecting later next year? Them to start working on new material or a release of older material?

Or the "historic older material" is in relation to the new material they're supposed to start working on, e.g. it has to do with completing pre-NuGnR material from the mid-90s?

Slash said, they have new songs, and he's hoping for a GN'R album late next year, and they have also worked on older songs, no details on that. Separately, on another day maybe a month later, he was asked about his comments album releasing an album with the current songs, and that received no comment.

#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 19 weeks ago

I'm just throwing that in there for discussion. Twas on the net.

Prior to all the lawsuit stuff, the latest from GN'R was all positive. There is new, the beginnings of new GN'R material that is not related to CD, there. There was also wording that some historic older material was possible. Slash is expecting this later next year. I asked though about his previous assertions that there was an album for all the post CD material that had been release, and there was no response. So, I don't know.

#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 19 weeks ago

An article on project management

"The music business leverages talent (technical) and production (practical), too. The comparison is so clearly evident that you can demonstrate why hiring an expert is going to save you time, money, and in the end, deliver your project with the highest level of quality.
Take the case of Glen Ballard. He is a songwriter and record producer. He co-wrote and produced an album you may have heard of, “Jagged Little Pill”, among many others. He was called “the calm hand at the controls” by the Los Angeles Times. Ballard began to work with upcoming artist at the time, Alanis Morisette. He brought her to the studio and immediately began writing and recording the music for her album – each song took only one or two takes. Many of the songs were written in less than a day; some in less than an hour, with the entire recording session lasting less than one month. It was a true collaboration between skilled talent, and production! The result became one of the most iconic albums of the 90s selling 33 million copies worldwide, going platinum 16 times in the United States, ten times in the UK, and seven times in Europe. It even has an award winning stage production.

Alternatively, we have William Bruce Baily, better known as W. Axl Rose, the lead singer of Guns N’ Roses. Their debut album, under the expertise of producer Mike Clink, was one of the biggest records of the era. Unfortunately, their last official album “Chinese Democracy” did not fare nearly as well; in fact it was a disappointment. It relied on presales (purchases committed to resellers such as Best Buy, and not fans) to get to less than two million in sales. The main disappointing factor here – it took nine years to release the album, with many in the industry claiming it actually took 14. The production credits for the album went to Rose and a little known producer, Caram Costanzo. This is a case where the creative overtook the production, and there were critical system failures.

When a comparison is drawn to the formal world of project management, you have clear success in the first case and definite failure in the second in many PM knowledge areas. Here are a few examples:

Scope Management: It is important to start out with a clearly defined goal, and to manage to that goal.

Schedule Management: Delivery is one of the key elements in a project. Staying on schedule impacts so many project variables.

Cost Management: As demonstrated in both examples, “bad” and “good” project management affects the end cost of your project. In this case, the cost of the recording sessions, salaries, equipment, etc. was astronomical for the album “Chinese Democracy” making it extremely difficult to profit in the end. “Jagged Little Pill” operated efficiently, with only about 30 days in the studio, keeping costs at a minimum.

Quality Management: Time and scope on these projects led to a clear differentiation of the final albums. Where “Jagged Little Pill” had huge success, “Chinese Democracy” did not. As projects drag on, team members lose interest, commitments wane, and focus is lost. A well-structured project with regular quality checks leads to a better overall product.

An expert Project Manager on your team is key for a successful project. We are here to help manage these knowledge areas. In the case of “Chinese Democracy,” the creative controlled these factors without constraint. It would be the same if you have a development or engineering team managing their own process. You may end up with something, but it rarely matches the desired outcome. True project success depends on close collaboration of the technical (or creative) and the practical (or production)."

#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » Haters » 22 weeks ago

Derko wrote:

CD is too...fat

In a peculiar way, that is a good word. As I've always said, it represents the years that were spent working on it, all the personnel and the eras it bypassed.

I like it as a record, but it is not your typical natural sounding record, and it's good in a dysfunctional sort of way. We all know it's history so it's a different listen from our perspective, whether u like it or not

#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Last Rock Stars script » 23 weeks ago

I think GN'R were much in demand in the early days, it was through them that Faster Pussycat got exposure to the record company's and they almost mucked up their musical presentation when record execs went too see them and sign them. I think Pussycat matured over time, the 1991 album was good, but by then grunge had taken over. It was expected that rock would evolve with bands like T ride and Saigon Kick, but it all disappeared quite quickly

#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 24 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:
sp1at wrote:

Just random musings, not read the whole thread.

From O Globo, Axl interview, Jan 2001

"With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse"

So I'm guessing Monsters/Soul Monster(?) was written pre 2001

Also, could Elvis and the Monster of Soul be Me and my Elvis, and Soul Monster as one song. I don't know if that works

I'd say The General is the one about child abuse. I always thought it didn't have vocals at that time because when Belltrami worked on it in October of 02 it was an instrumental, but the song being about abuse & being mentioned in January of 01 suggests that it may have had lyrics at that point after all.

Maybe he just had not recorded them yet, or maybe they were already done and he just chose to take the instrumentals to Beltrami. Either way this points to the song existing in the year 2000, which is 2 years earlier than we had proof of before.

Cool. It sounds like 18 songs were done, or existed in some way at this point. I suppose if Brain joined in late 2000, that's a quick turnaround for a song.

I was actually going back to look at Oklahoma. There were sessions in 95/96, then it sounds like Axl did no more vocals until Youth joined in 98/99, then Dave Dominguez came, short stay, then Sean Beavan. There was mention somewhere that pre-CD songs will get carried forward, so I'm just interested in that sense

#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 24 weeks ago

Just random musings, not read the whole thread.

From O Globo, Axl interview, Jan 2001

"With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse"

So I'm guessing Monsters/Soul Monster(?) was written pre 2001

Also, could Elvis and the Monster of Soul be Me and my Elvis, and Soul Monster as one song. I don't know if that works

#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 24 weeks ago

James wrote:
Gagarin wrote:

Where did these 2 leaks pop up first? Just an anon poster?

They leaked here. The OP of this thread.



Good to see you back.

Yeah... where's Mike Clink indeed...or anyone who could mix this properly.





, this feels like a genuine gift to the hardcore fans and a bit of a bow on the CD era. Who knows whether we actually get Atlas in the future, or more CD era goodies like SOG, but we've basically gotten all the 'big guns' of CD2.

I also think this release is wrapping up the CD era. I'm hoping for one more but it's doubtful.

There's two big guns left...

Oklahoma and Seven

After that it's Slim Pickens....


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I have a feeling that Oklahoma will be one that gets carried forward as it predates CD.

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