Classic.....train rolling? No. Milking the old man greatest hits cover band cash cow? Yes.
Oh, for fuck's sake, stop banging this drum. They have songs. Duff just said in an interview that he wrote 70 songs for Tenderness, and he only used 15 of them. Axl, Fortus, Dizzy and Frank have god knows how many songs stored up from the Chinese Democracy years. Slash is a riff machine. Melissa's an accomplished songwriter who's bound to have some ideas to bring to the table, to say nothing of the backroom team of GN'R family like Brain and Paul Huge, etc etc.
In every single interview they've said that there's an appetite to get down to business and record an album. And this is not like Bumblefoot and DJ Ashba trying to engage a demoralised, disinterested Axl, this is the record breaking NITL line-up with the bit between their teeth. This is not Axl trying to sell a disinterested record company on yet another new line-up, this is the three most recognisable members of the classic band, back together and coming off the back of a world-beating tour. They are popular again, they know it, and there is surely a desire to ensure that the last album in their discography isn't Chinese Democracy, however much that album has a cult following.
There is going to be a new album.
Stop pissing and moaning, for fuck's sake.
i think they were in the studio to demo out some vault, or even brand new original songs, and practice them to be played on the short tour. i just have a feeling we will hear something new, maybe even a single or two while they work on more for an album and new tour
Jeez, can you imagine the reaction from the crowd if Axl says, "This is a new song..."
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Of course, we will get nothing but some more solo records in between cash grab tours and never ending dangling of the “new” music carrot by whatever unfortunate soul happens to be playing guitar that day. Meh. I’ve got better things to do.
Seriously, if they "start again" in around Oct/Nov, I'd expect an album to show up in a year from now, at the earliest. That way, it'd be there for a summer tour. But second-guessing Ax's timekeeping has consistently proven futile. No point in waiting, if it happens it happens. Then we can give it the time of day.
The thing is, he can spend 13 years slogging away on a GN'R album (which, to be fair, wasn't entirely his fault) and then turn around and rattle out some vocals for a Sebastian Bach album or a Looney Tunes cartoon, with no prior warning. So who knows?
I think it'd be absolutely hilarious if they just popped into a studio and rattled through the recording in a couple of weeks.
Honestly, I'm startled at how quiet things are the bootleg front. There haven't even been rumors of new leaks surfacing, and the remaining things we know are out there but not circulating (the internal documents and rehearsal footage) seem to remain in the hands of one, maybe two people.
This feels like being a fan around 1998! Although admittedly that was a GREAT year to be buying GNR stuff on eBay.
Well, it feels like with the remixes and the 2001 HOB footage having leaked, that's basically it for the Chinese Democracy stuff that's in circulation. Everything else is locked down tight, isn't it?
The layers and layers of stuff on Chinese Democracy distracted from the whole. Stinson and Fortus are inaudible for most of the album.
For all that I love Fortus' stage presence, I couldn't tell you what he played on CD. Finck, Bucket and Bumble all have solos and distinctive guitar tones/playing styles, but Fortus is relegated to rhythm parts and lost in the mix (plus IIRC he shares rhythm duties with Paul Huge, and Finck, and Bumble, and Bucket on some songs). If you're just belting out chords it's hard to tell what you're playing.
Hopefully the two-guitar setup of the NITL band will mean that we can actually pick him out, and get some dynamic, organic interplay between the rhythm and lead guitar lines like we did on AFD/UYI.
- Anything salvagable from the Slash sessions in 95/96 and again worked up by the new band - surely there is some stuff that can be honed into a song or 2.
I doubt there's anything left from those sessions; anything decent is likely to have ended up on one or other of Slash's solo projects over the years.