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#2 Re: The Sunset Strip » Halloween (2018) » 38 weeks ago

Holy shit. I haven't seen you in eons.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this. The trailer does look promising but apparently when they tested it on audiences it went over bad and they may do reshoots.

#3 Re: The Garden » The Space thread » 48 weeks ago

Its amazing how much we've learned over the past few decades. When we were kids, there were only nine planets(including Pluto). Saturn had like 12 moons and I think Jupiter had 10. Uranus and Neptune 4 or 5. There were theories of a tenth planet.


Pluto isn't even a planet. It's a 'dwarf planet'....and there's so many of those we haven't even discovered them all yet. Even with all these dwarf planets, they're on the verge of discovering that mythical planet. Saturn has 62 moons(and counting), Jupiter has 69 moons(and counting), Uranus 27 moons, and Neptune 14 moons.

Imagine what we'll discover over the next few decades.

As far as 'planet nine' goes, its obvious why its avoided detection for so long. Its simply too far out in its orbit currently. With any luck, its getting closer. We got lucky the same way when it came to Pluto...although this one is waaay out there.

#4 Re: The Garden » The Space thread » 48 weeks ago

Weird Space Rock Provides More Evidence for Mysterious 'Planet Nine'


The solar system just got a bit stranger. As astronomers continue their ongoing quest to find the elusive Planet Nine, a team found a space rock that lends credence to the idea that a huge super-Earth planet really exists in the outer reaches of our solar system.

The newfound asteroid, called 2015 BP519, adds to a growing body of evidence about little worlds in the solar system being perturbed by something big. Astronomers detailed its discovery and description in a new paper, adding that the bizarre angle of its orbit gives more weight to the idea that a big planet is out there — somewhere — tugging on the asteroid's path around the sun.

"We also consider the long term orbital stability and evolutionary behavior within the context of the Planet Nine hypothesis, and find that 2015 BP519 adds to the circumstantial evidence for the existence of this proposed new member of the solar system," read the abstract of the paper, which is available now on preprint website Arxiv and has been submitted to The Astronomical Journal. [How Astronomers Could Actually See 'Planet Nine']

Following up on the discovery, Quanta Magazine recently published an article surveying several astrophysicists who specialize in studying small worlds, including the discoverers of 2015 BP519. While not everybody agreed that Planet Nine was responsible for the strange orbit, the overwhelming majority agreed the new discovery gives more credence to the idea. "The second you put Planet Nine in the simulations, not only can you form objects like this object, but you absolutely do," lead author Juliette Becker, a graduate student at the University of Michigan, told Quanta. (You can look at the object's orbit online here.)

It's not the first time Planet Nine was blamed for pushing an object around. Back in 2014, before Planet Nine was officially hypothesized, astronomers Scott Sheppard and Chadwick Trujillo noticed orbital irregularities in several small bodies beyond Neptune's orbit. These included dwarf planet Sedna, a newfound object called 2012 VP113, and several other trans-Neptunian objects (TNOs).

Then, in January 2016, astronomers Konstantin Batygin and Mike Brown saw more evidence of TNOs with perturbed orbits. They were the ones who first gave "Planet Nine" a name, size and distance. They suggested that the mysterious planet could be 10 times more massive than Earth, located 600 astronomical units (AU) from the sun. (One AU is the average distance between the Earth and the sun, which is 93 million miles or 150 million kilometers.)

A flood of studies followed about TNOs and how Planet Nine might have affected their orbits; the following summary is just a sampling. Not all teams were enthusiastic, with one group from the Outer Solar System Origins Survey (OSSOS) cautioning that many of these surveys could be just observational bias.

But astronomers persisted, with Sheppard and Trujillo discovering at least two new TNOs possibly affected by Planet Nine. Another study showed Planet Nine perhaps influenced the tilt of planets in our solar system. And in 2017, astronomers from the University of Madrid in Spain found peculiarities in the orbits of 22 "extreme" TNOs that orbit the sun that could also be explained by a large, distant body exerting gravitational influence. (These TNOs never get closer to the sun than Neptune — which is 30 AU away, orbiting the sun in a rough circle — and have an average distance of at least 150 AU.)

By October 2017, Batygin said, there were at least five different lines of evidence that suggest the existence of the planet. "If you were to remove this explanation and imagine Planet Nine does not exist, then you generate more problems than you solve. All of a sudden, you have five different puzzles, and you must come up with five different theories to explain them," he said in a statement. … ement.html

#5 Re: The Garden » The Space thread » 48 weeks ago

I don't like how the US is taking a backseat while countries like China and India are moving forward. Fuck, even Kenya wants in on the action!

NASA needs to be overhauled somehow and get out of this 4-8 year cycle where it depends on who the president is and how partisan congress is and this factors in to certain programs being canceled and/or a complete shift in tone. Obama killed the shuttle and pretended we would go to Mars. The shuttle has no replacement and we hitchhike for a ride with the Russians. Now Trump wants Mars and the Moon to become a focus yet we just killed our Moon rover while these countries pick up the slack.

Trump did give NASA the best budget in years but it will be awhile to see how much it helped.

The US should not let other countries get ahead of us in moon exploration.

#6 Re: The Garden » The Space thread » 48 weeks ago

China takes a critical first step toward landing on the far side of the Moon


China's space agency has taken a critical first step toward an unprecedented robotic landing on the far side of the Moon. On Monday, local time, the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation launched a Long March 4C rocket from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center. Although it did not broadcast the launch, the Chinese space agency said it went smoothly, according to the state news service Xinhua.

"The launch is a key step for China to realize its goal of being the first country to send a probe to soft-land on and rove the far side of the Moon," Zhang Lihua, manager of the relay satellite project, told Xinhua.

About 25 minutes after the launch, the Queqiao spacecraft separated from the rocket's upper stage, and began a trip toward a halo orbit of the Earth-Moon Lagrange Point L2. Over the next six months, the 425kg spacecraft will undergo tests to ensure it will function properly as a communications relay.

If so, China will then attempt to launch the Chang'e 4 spacecraft late this year, which will try to make an unprecedented soft landing on the far side of the Moon. This mission will also include a rover to undertake scientific excursions.

However, because the far side of the Moon is the far side, a lander and rover there cannot have a direct line of sight for communications with Earth. Hence the need for the relay spacecraft at L2, which can capture data from the Chang'e 4 lander and send it back to Earth. The relay spacecraft will use S-band and X-band frequencies to communicate.

Of note, the Queqiao spacecraft—which means Magpie bridge and is a reference to Chinese folklore—will also carry two scientific instruments. One is a Dutch radio antenna, which will study celestial radio frequencies blocked by Earth's atmosphere. The other instrument is a large-aperture laser angle reflector for ranging measurements between Earth and the spacecraft.

The relay spacecraft should reach its L2 halo orbit in about eight days … -the-moon/

#7 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 48 weeks ago

continue to appoint people who are unqualified for their positions

This is my biggest problem with the Trump presidency and unfortunately it gets buried in all the Trump noise in general.

That was my biggest worry day one....that any legit issues would be drowned out. Trump hires an imbecile in a key position? Who gives a shit...he just walked up a flight of stairs and this is more important.

The media(BOTH sides) are to blame in how this presidency is covered. In their need for 24/7 coverage, its all just white noise. We've never seen anything like this and I wish people would resist it before it becomes the norm in how we cover presidents.

edit: I know some will say its always been like this.

They're wrong.

Of course presidents get daily coverage. Reagan or Clinton filmed waving to the crowd as they get off Air Force One and then a news clip of them speaking at a school and then more footage as they board Air Force One.

This is different.

Breaking News.....Trump walks up flight of stairs. Five minutes later....Breaking News....Trump has a drink of water.  Five minutes later.....A panel of talking heads have a thirty minute bitch fest discussing the size of Trump's hands.

Its incessant and its destructive. Its ruining news and the constant partisan bickering is making the divide worse. Mix this toxicity in with social media and we now have grandmas who are instant experts on all issues and they've got the memes to prove it.

#8 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 48 weeks ago

Mission Impossible- Saw this in the theater in 96. Just watched it a few days ago since I decided to watch the other films. Its amazing how slow action films of old are after watching how modern films move along. Same with TV shows. Watch something like Streets of San Francisco, then watch something like Rizzoli & Isles. Its insane.

It's a great film though. The sequels lost the flavor contained in this one. The CIA break in one of the best moments in the series.

Mission Impossible II- Holy shit. They lost the plot with this one. I don't know if anyone said it at the time(2000) but this had the potential to be a franchise killer. The simple fact it killed at the box office is likely the only thing that saved it. The plot is severely lacking, a terrible cast with no chemistry, Some scenes loaded with cringe, and its too action oriented.

Mission Impossible III- Nice recovery. Cruise must have realized his franchise was in trouble. A better cast and Hoffman wound up being the best villain in the franchise. The series has permanently strayed from its roots though with epic action scenes becoming the fuel.

Mission Impossible Rogue Nation- Wow. After watching III I didn't think they could top its casting. They did here. The Ilsa character is strong enough to warrant a spinoff film.  I actually googled her to see if there had already been a film with this character in it. She just shows up and starts kicking ass like she's an action star on her own. They'll never do it of course but the potential is there. Cruise's age is catching up with him but he can still pull it off. He should focus on doing a few more MI films before he gets too old.

The Prestige- Cant believe I went all these years without watching it. I was pleasantly surprised. I'm not a big fan of films set in this era which is probably why I avoided it but it has a great story. Was surprised to see Bowie playing Tesla. A bold casting choice.

The Bourne Supremacy- Decided to catch up on this franchise like I did MI. I saw the first Bourne movie when it came out but none of the others. I should've watched the first one again instead of picking up here.  I do not like this character at all and I realize part of it may be because I simply cant stand Damon. I was able to overlook this with The Martian but not here. I may try the latest Bourne film before giving up on it.

I don't find the Bourne character sympathetic yet he's supposed to be. We're supposed to pull for him in these situations but there's nothing to pull for. He's just a grade A assassin who also kills women who get in the way. His apology to the surviving daughter at the end falls flat.

These films might be better had a different actor got the role.

I Still Know What You Did Last Summer- Jesus Christ. I saw this in 98 when it came out and liked it although I was always a Hewitt fan from Party of Five. This film does not hold up at all and the plot is pure shit. They obviously did it to capitalize on the success of the first film and put no thought into this.

I've put this on my list of horror films to never watch again.

Annihilation- Great film. I wish Portman would do more films like this. She's amazing but her resume is real spotty. I didn't really like the ending but there were very few directions for this story to go. I never read the book but apparently they took it in a different direction. The books are a trilogy but I don't see how this story could realistically get sequels.

#9 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 48 weeks ago

Maybe they can come out with theme music and pyro to go full WWE.

I've been expecting this for years. It was already set up for it once they named every tragedy and we get that little music intro to let us know its doom and gloom time.

#10 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 49 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

The American people don’t want that anymore...despite their bitching

I do. I long for the days of Brokaw when all we heard was the actual news. He didn't bitch about it, he didn't tell you what to think, he didn't force his opinion on you.

Other than shows like Crossfire, CNN used to be like that too. It was just the news. Now its a panel of talking heads going on a marathon bitch fest. How people fell for this amazes me.

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