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#1 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 40 hours ago

bigbri wrote:

I see Trump has bowed down again to Kim Jong Un. I thought Trump was supposed to be tough. Really, he's a coward.

Yup. They could be killing him on this, plus he was a draft dodger. I wouldn't let up on it. Everything else is white noise at this point. We all know he's a liar, corrupt, all that shit. But being called a coward would be the thing that'd drive him nuts.

#2 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 40 hours ago

shutout52 wrote:
misterID wrote:
shutout52 wrote:

Of course not. This is all just some conspiracy of the DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE to them still.

This hysteria is grating. Seriously, is there anyone here, outside SG, who actually wants Trump as President? For three years he's been a week from impeachment, removal and prison. It's not going to happen. Not unless there's something big we haven't heard of yet.

No one, aside from the lunatic fringe has ever thought it's "a week" away. Or even a month. Anyone who knows a goddamn thing about politics, criminal investigations, and the processes of either knows it takes a while.

I don't know where you've been.

#3 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

Hence, no reason to get excited about any of this. Concentrate on the election.

#4 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

Perhaps. Does that change anything I've said?

He's not going to be removed for collusion, obstruction, bribery, slander or witness intimidation through Twitter.

#5 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

shutout52 wrote:
slcpunk wrote:

Are you trump apologists learning anything yet? My guess is no.

Of course not. This is all just some conspiracy of the DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE to them still.

This hysteria is grating. Seriously, is there anyone here, outside SG, who actually wants Trump as President? For three years he's been a week from impeachment, removal and prison. It's not going to happen. Not unless there's something big we haven't heard of yet.

#6 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 4 days ago

Could DeSantis pardon him from New York charges?

#7 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 4 days ago

bigbri wrote:
misterID wrote:
shutout52 wrote:

You have to wonder though: would the GOP trust the phrase "President Nikki Haley" at all? She was quite critical of Trump leading up to the 2016 election and hasn't been completely in lockstep with him since. They could view that as either a good or bad thing overall.  Of what I've read on her, I actually like her compared to most GOP members. Not enough to where I'd vote for her, but I can think of far worse possibilities.

In the event that Haley replaces Pence on the ticket, what are the odds he goes full turncoat in any potential impeachment trial? Would/could he be offered full immunity from prosecution of his own (thus far theoretical) crimes in exchange for impeachment testimony? You'd think the #2 guy would know some pretty damning things-- maybe even participated in them.  If the GOP doesn't like the idea of her as president, they may need to make a major push to keep Pence on the ticket.

Conversely if they really like her as a potential president (after all, it would be a huge coup for the party to be able to stake the claim to first female president), this could be the plan: remove Pence and piss him off enough to get him to spill what he knows, act all indignant when his testimony comes, go full 70s-GOP-on-Nixon and support removal of Trump from office, and open the gates for her to walk on into the Oval Office.

Haley is the golden child for Republicans, they alleged as the future, and are all backing her, even the ones who are slagging her now as a Trump stooge. She could win the suburbs, or at least, their best chance to.

If he leaves office he could then be prosecuted, but could be pardoned by the acting President (like Ford did for Nixon) so that could be incentive to leave early.

Can’t be pardoned on state charges, as I understand it. New York has several.

Good point. Could they extradite him from Florida? If there was a case, it's hurt that the NYDA basically said they were going after him, and made it so personal so publicly.

#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Album Thread » 5 days ago

Old fart rock bands are the most successful tours nowadays. They make insane amounts of money, and I'll bet you anything GN'R are going to be touring for a long time.

#9 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 5 days ago

wasted wrote:
misterID wrote:

He never even wanted to win the Presidency. I do think he wants to be re-elected, I don't think he wants the job and would gladly walk away. From everything I get, he really dislikes Pence and makes fun of him constantly. There was a story where whenever Trump introduced him to people he'd say, "and Mike really hates gay people."

Getting impeached is an easy way out for Trump. In someways it’s like he’s being trying to get thrown out since the beginning. He has zero filter, I’d like him to continue his rallies though. Even if he’s not running. Trump should keep touring internationally.

I've thought about this too.

#10 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 5 days ago

PaSnow wrote:

I believe the replacement VP has to be approved by both House & Senate.

Wouldn't be that easy.

He can select a new running mate when he's running for a second term. I'm pretty sure he can choose who he wants it Pence resigns.

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