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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 26 weeks ago
I think all you VR and Slash fans are going to be in for such a BIG SURPRISE when the confirmation comes in.
#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 26 weeks ago
Just wait until there is official confirmation from the hoarders on whether it is Robin or Slash on either of the demos and you'll see. Just wait for the official confirmation from the hoarders. you'll see.
#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 26 weeks ago
monsterscantkillme wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:Slash re-writes robins parts just like he did on perhaps and hard school. What slash played last night, sounds like what is on the leaked track. It seems like its slash and fortus on the leak. I thought it was Robin and BH at first on The General until I heard the live version.
I have always though its slash and duff on Monsters since the music sounds like the stuff they did in VR
I respect what you're saying. If you think you hear VR then you actually hear it. I'm not really into VR. I'm into Guns N Roses Chinese Democracy. I've compared Slither to Monsters and I'm honestly struggling to see how they are similar. The solos of Slither and Monsters aren't the same. I focus on solos. I don't focus on the other stuff. My fav member in a band is the lead guitarist more than anything else.
I am a way bigger CD era fan than you are. And its bonkers you cant hear VR in the Monsters song.
Even if its not Slash and Duff, it sounds just like a VR song musically.And who said the solos sound the same. WE are talking about the style of the overall song
The bass style is very similar as is the guitar style.
It's put into question if this demo really is Slash and Duff. Speculation is Monsters is from an uncirculated batch of 2006 discs that features all the other songs we've heard about that have been rumored about to be recorded by Slash and Duff returned to the live band tour in 2016 to 2023. With all due respect you sound more like a Slash fan than you do a Robin, Bucket, Tommy, and Brain. You defend Slash so much and you're like one of the biggest Slash defenders on the forums. I don't defend Slash because I don't like Slash. I don't like Slash since he left. And he didn't leave peacefully. Slash left because he wanted to keep the nightrain going and Axl wanted more November Rain. Creative differences. The same thing that broke up John and Paul. But I don't support 2023 Axl because Axl still won't release CD2 and CE3 with Robin and Bucket. And instead 2023 Axl let's Slash and Duff ruin Robin's and Bucket's art to PUMP UP the live tour and keep the cash rolling in. It's not about integraty and respect for Axl, it's all about the money for Axl. the money that keeps the cash train rolling all night long. the solo in VR is a standard, by the numebrs solo. Nothing special. But the solo on The General by Robin Finck is something so creative we've never heard before in a rock song. The same for the solo on Monsters if that is Robin. If it is Slash, then I'll give him the credit. But Monsters is still a question mark. But the Robin fans I ask on social media think Monsters is Robin too. And to me it's about the solos. Style overrall doesn't stand out. Rock solos do. The rock solo is where the money is in a song.
#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 26 weeks ago
monsterscantkillme wrote:WLMusic wrote:The end solo does sound different but the wah lines in the verses are pretty much exactly like the leaks.
The end solo sounds different. That's one of the reasons I say Robin. But I can see what you say about the wah lines too. And not every rework is completely different from the original recording. Some parts stay the same and others are done over differently.
So using your logic since BH plays a different solo live than the studio version of Madagascar that means its not BH on the studio version?
No. We know that is Buckethead. It's hard to explain from that angle. Since when I heard Madagascar played at MTV VMA 2002 I knew it was Buckethead. I don't know what else to say on Buckethead. Buckethead is a freak in the fact he churns out solo record after record of incredible sounds. Buckethead is a MONSTER releasing stuff. A shame he left when he did. Bucket and Robin had great chemistry on stage for the limited time they were together. but a very creative time. look at the songs Bucket and Robin recorded together in such a short period of time? I'd say hundreds of songs! Village leaks all the songs with vocals all the instrumentals and so much more we don't know about. I'm saying if you go by the rework logic some parts of The General will be the same on the official release and some won't. In this case I think the biggest difference will be the guitar solo that ends the song. There is not much else to the song musically. Almost like a Chinese Democracy hip hop beat with drums. But again I mostly focus on the lead guitar stuff. Others can sort out the rest. They're quite good at it,
#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 26 weeks ago
monsterscantkillme wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:I have listened to muliple shots of the live verision and its pretty much just like the demo, unlke Hard School and perhaps.
Also didn't Marco even say the leak version does not sound like the same version he worked on?
Also is pretty annoying you have ruined two threads about the general.
I have listened to the same things you have and you have it wrong. The Slash COVER solo doesn't climb like Robin's on The General. It goes low. The body. The low rumble. Slash doesn't have it, man. Slash is limited on what he can do and this clearly shows it.
Slash re-writes robins parts just like he did on perhaps and hard school. What slash played last night, sounds like what is on the leaked track. It seems like its slash and fortus on the leak. I thought it was Robin and BH at first on The General until I heard the live version.
I have always though its slash and duff on Monsters since the music sounds like the stuff they did in VR
I respect what you're saying. If you think you hear VR then you actually hear it. I'm not really into VR. I'm into Guns N Roses Chinese Democracy. I've compared Slither to Monsters and I'm honestly struggling to see how they are similar. The solos of Slither and Monsters aren't the same. I focus on solos. I don't focus on the other stuff. My fav member in a band is the lead guitarist more than anything else.
#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 26 weeks ago
The end solo does sound different but the wah lines in the verses are pretty much exactly like the leaks.
The end solo sounds different. That's one of the reasons I say Robin. But I can see what you say about the wah lines too. And not every rework is completely different from the original recording. Some parts stay the same and others are done over differently.
#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 26 weeks ago
monsterscantkillme wrote:Tmgladden wrote:Yes but when we give our opinion we don’t drag it on for days like a dead horse saying the same thing . We get it, you think it’s robin, we think it’s slash. End of debate
But you could be wrong, and you and the majority always say it is Slash and beat that to a dead horse. The ones who say Slash beat the dead horse. Nobody calls them out on it. You just single me out. We still don't know for sure. So, the debate isn't over until we know. And you know why you gang up on me and single me out? It's because I don't like Slash and worship Slash. And because I don't act like Slash is my GOD.
Dude, I don’t want slash in the band either, or duff. I want nuguns. I’ve always preferred nuguns cause that’s what I grew up with. But that doesn’t change the fact you keep yourself singled out by not just dropping it. Let it die till we know for sure
The reason I keep defending Robin and Bucket is because everybody so strongly on their end defends Slash. I'm like alone on an island. But when I say people are telling me it is Robin on the General, and that Monsters is industrial rock I'm not making it up. I've shared the songs with Robin fans on twitter, reddit, and facebook and they think it is Robin.
#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 26 weeks ago
monsterscantkillme wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:no it doesnt lol it more shows its probably slash on it
it more likely shows Robin on the demo. listen to how out of tune Slash sounds on Robin's art. Slash struggling badly to be Robin on stage.
I have listened to muliple shots of the live verision and its pretty much just like the demo, unlke Hard School and perhaps.
Also didn't Marco even say the leak version does not sound like the same version he worked on?
Also is pretty annoying you have ruined two threads about the general.
I have listened to the same things you have and you have it wrong. The Slash COVER solo doesn't climb like Robin's on The General. It goes low. The body. The low rumble. Slash doesn't have it, man. Slash is limited on what he can do and this clearly shows it.
#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 26 weeks ago
monsterscantkillme wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:Tried to remove that lady screaming like mad, not that i can blame her
https://soundcloud.com/bob-terry-664625014/the-general-live-first-performance
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This audio provided by Shacklemyrye proves my case that it is Robin on the demo and Slash on the official release. Thank you, Shacklemyrye.
no it doesnt lol it more shows its probably slash on it
Robin's art comes out of nowhere and explodes on the high end. Listen to the body and how Slash dips low and is out of tune trying to capture Robin. The Robin solo keeps climbing. The Slash doesn't climb on high notes and dips and goes low. The low rumble. The limitations of Slash. Limitations Robin doesn't have. Slash tried the same thing live on Perhaps and Hard Skool and didn't deliver. The same here with this.
#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 26 weeks ago
monsterscantkillme wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:Tried to remove that lady screaming like mad, not that i can blame her
https://soundcloud.com/bob-terry-664625014/the-general-live-first-performance
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This audio provided by Shacklemyrye proves my case that it is Robin on the demo and Slash on the official release. Thank you, Shacklemyrye.
no it doesnt lol it more shows its probably slash on it
it more likely shows Robin on the demo. listen to how out of tune Slash sounds on Robin's art. Slash struggling badly to be Robin on stage.
