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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 51 weeks ago

otto wrote:

Rose: In ways. What we're doing is we're rehearsing with different guitar players, and we're still recording. I'm doing the vocals. I'm about three-quarters of the way through, and it's a very difficult process for me.

I write the vocals last, because I wanted to invent the music first and push the music to the level that I had to compete against it. That's kind of tough. It's like you got to go in against these new guys who kicked ass. You finally got the song musically where you wanted to, and then you have to figure out how to go in and kick its ass and be one person competing against this wall of sound.

Why I chose to do it that way is that, you know, I can sit and write poetry 'til hell freezes over, and getting attached to any particular set of words... I felt that I would write to those words in a dated fashion, and we really wouldn't get the best music. "Oh My God" is a perfect example. When we finally got "Oh My God" where it needed to be, then I got the right words to it. With "Appetite," I wrote a lot of the words first, but in, like, "Oh My God," I wrote the words second, but the music was written like "Appetite." We kept developing it until it we got it right. [With] "Appetite," everything had been worked on, and worked on, and worked on. That was not the case with "Use Your Illusion."

Duff talked about this recently in the first part of this interview:

#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 56 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:
WLMusic wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:

Perhaps CD single japan, contains The General but nothing about Monster's there.
https://store.universal-music.co.jp/product/uicy5140/

So the worrying of the General being "vinyl only" was all for not. Who woulda thought!

I caved & ordered it

Haha. I did too.

#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 56 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:

Perhaps CD single japan, contains The General but nothing about Monster's there.
https://store.universal-music.co.jp/product/uicy5140/

So the worrying of the General being "vinyl only" was all for not. Who woulda thought!

#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 57 weeks ago

The whole band seemed to be having a blast the two times I saw them on this run.

#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 57 weeks ago

Scabbie wrote:

I'm grateful for the variety of the songs coming out. There's not many bands that would give you such an eclectic mix of songs.

Will be very interesting to see what style they would adopt if they recorded a new album. Classic GNR? Modern VR style?

I'm 100% with you. Perhaps is like a hard rock version of Fiona Apple. The General is like a Portishead/Erykah Badu meets The Garden hard rock, Monsters a Sabbath meets funk with soul band backing vocals. None of it sounds particularly forced.

I'm grateful for the CD era band laying the framework for these songs but feel the current band has added a lot in subtle areas. I get preferring solos from others, but to me, the play between the rhythm section of Duff/Slash/Fortus + whoever is playing drums on the recordings is a different level. It sounds more like a band playing with each other vs recording over previously recorded parts. Just my 2 cents.

#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 57 weeks ago

The end solo does sound different but the wah lines in the verses are pretty much exactly like the leaks.

#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 57 weeks ago

My post isn't a setup. I will be the first to admit, Fincks record solo to Better is perfect and I wish the live version was a little more faithful to the recording. I also really enjoyed the first half of his solo on the Perhaps demo but like the last half of Slashs. The prolonged bends where you can hear the subtle scraping of Slashs guitar strings on the fretboard are an excellent emotional compliment to returning to "Perhaps I was wrong..."

Bumblefoots Shacklers solo is excellent in my opinion. TWAT solo by Bucket is great as well.

#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 57 weeks ago

In the General leaks the wah lead line sounds trademark Slash. The phrasing of it harkens to many recordings (Grave Dancer, Come On Come In, Shine, PtU). One of the other rhythm guitar parts has a tone similar to a sitar and Fortus had that picture of the Electro Harmonix Ravish Sitar pedal in his live rig earlier in the tour. That is a pedal that came out in 2011, long after Finck/Buckethead had left.

I haven't listened to the live performance yet so I can't comment on the solo plus it is hard to hear on the leaks. The leaks sound like they are at a reduced sample rate compared to full quality. My first listen of the leaks I thought it was Slash on the leak, if not the shredding sounded more like how Fortus plays live more than anything I've heard from Finck.

The verse rhythm section in Monsters has a lot of two guitar interplay that reminds me of how Izzy/Slash played. The rhythm guitar parts throughout both songs have more detail/intricacies to them than the CD band typically had which tracks with Slash's recent recordings.

On both songs, some of the production choices/tones sound more modern than I would expect from an early 2000s demo. Im guessing Melissa redid some of the subtle synth parts and knocked it out of the park. The bass tone sounds like vintage Duff minus the chorus. All in all, these two tracks, to me, sound the most like a band settling in together.

When I Google Finck Strat I only see pictures of Les Paul's, a two humbucker Reverend, a Tele knock off, and a Schecter custom guitar. No pics of him with a Strat came up in my (limited) search.

P.S. Many people can like a song/performance by an artist when they didn't like other performances of that artists before. These songs are baller regardless of who plays on them.

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