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#1 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 27 hours ago

misterID wrote:

I still really like Amy Klobuchar and Andrew Yang, though neither will get the nomination.

Amy Klobuchar is a good old fashioned Midwest style democrat. Mild mannered, somewhat reserved....unfortunately i don’t know how that plays out for the entire country. They might see that as boring.

There is no way a guy like Trump should win in the Midwest. From him being a fast talking New Yorker to his awful behavior...a person like him would be shunned in the Midwest.

But somehow he took Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio (is this considered the Midwest?)

Klobucher should be exactly what Iowans want in their primary. If she could win there then who knows.

#2 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 27 hours ago

misterID wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

They have to. Had they followed Pelosi's lead they would have come off a lot better, but they really boxed her into the corner in the last three days, and she capitulated to the crazies. Now, with whatever juvenile stupidity he blubbered through today, he called her on the cover up stuff. People expect Trump to be a child, democrats ran on being adults. He can frame this as they're obstructing with the investigations, I mean it's getting to the point where it looks like harassment, when it was supposed to have ended with the Mueller report. The media isn't helping with their pro impeachment coverage.

Why is it harrasment now but it wasn’t harrasment to Hillary or Bill?

The republicans have followed through on their threats.

It was harassment. The only difference was that several people were killed in Benghazi. And dems are literally going back on their words and own positions when THEY claimed this kind of thing was harassment.

How can you not at least consider this strategywhen it was proven so successful for the republicans?

#3 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 37 hours ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

ID is so reasonable. I respect that. Who gives a flying fuck about Russia, beat trump in 2020... trump is going to win again because of how the Dems are acting. Trust me, he is winning again. Sleepy Joe won’t beat him. Bernie won’t beat him. Kamala won’t beat him. Only if Oprah runs will Trump lose.

Lol ID is reasonable? What are you buttering him up for?

If trump wins again it’ll be because the Dems suck. Trump is beyond retarded

#4 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 40 hours ago

misterID wrote:

They have to. Had they followed Pelosi's lead they would have come off a lot better, but they really boxed her into the corner in the last three days, and she capitulated to the crazies. Now, with whatever juvenile stupidity he blubbered through today, he called her on the cover up stuff. People expect Trump to be a child, democrats ran on being adults. He can frame this as they're obstructing with the investigations, I mean it's getting to the point where it looks like harassment, when it was supposed to have ended with the Mueller report. The media isn't helping with their pro impeachment coverage.

Why is it harrasment now but it wasn’t harrasment to Hillary or Bill?

The republicans have followed through on their threats.

#5 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 44 hours ago

misterID wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Today wasn't a good day for Trump. Cohen cell phone records released, unlikely to hold his tax returns private, and bizarre angry press conference where he's obviously lying and wants soo badly to move on from this.

He's guilty.


I'm wondering if something happens Friday (day before a 3 day holiday weekend. You know, the type of news dump day Barr predictably chose to say he thinks Trump should be not charged)

It wasnt, but does it matter at this point? He's had a thousand bad days where I've heard "the walls are closing in" "the noose is tightening" and  "this could be the end!" and all you get is a fart. I don't think it matters to the vast amount of folks, tbh. He can't be impeached and if they try they'll make him look like a victim.  If they walk into 2020 with nothing passed except a failed impeachment, he wins.

I can't believe what an awful candidate Kamala Harris is.

Well he came out today and said he’s not willing to work on anything...whatever i guess.

#6 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 45 hours ago

PaSnow wrote:

Today wasn't a good day for Trump. Cohen cell phone records released, unlikely to hold his tax returns private, and bizarre angry press conference where he's obviously lying and wants soo badly to move on from this.

He's guilty.


I'm wondering if something happens Friday (day before a 3 day holiday weekend. You know, the type of news dump day Barr predictably chose to say he thinks Trump should be not charged)

I’m curious if trumps behavior is pure emotional or he’s actually got a strategy.

#8 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

RF, don’t let me be the only poster here that isn’t an Ocasio Cortez Fan Boi

What we need more of is loud, blustry men who don't deliver results.

When does infrastructure week start? Where is my cheaper healthcare?

#9 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

mitchejw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Hannity must be on vacation, Flagg hasn't posted in a while.:o

/burn

Here....I'll engage you...

It seems like Trump is baiting the Dems into pursuing impeachment. I'm not sure if he thinks the Dems are too big of pussies (which they usually are) to follow through or he seems to think this will help him somehow.

I will say this...a Republican from the Senate coming out could open up a deluge.

I've often thought that the Republicans would only get rid of him if they had a back up plan. Or if he'd served his purpose. Perhaps getting rid of him in time for 2020 is ideal. They can participate in the primary season knowing full well Trump is not going to be back.

But who knows...all I know is Trump sucks. He's everything I hate in a leader. He's blustery, takes credit for things other people have done, blames other when things go wrong. He's so fuckin' lazy too. Outside of pep rallies and meeting with the media, he does nothing but tweet and go golfing.

Some people really love that shit...clearly. They're easily distracted by this guy who walks around and claims victory over everything. They love bluster with no follow through.

Another thing I've considered is while there are things about being president that Trump clearly likes...he'd be president until his mid-late 70s if he won again. How much life could he have left? My guess is he'd rather spend it getting fatter and fucking around on his wife.

At some point, he may become satiated to all of this...and decide he wants that old life back.

One more thing...I think the Dems best strategy for the foreseeable future is to punish everyone who tries to protect Trump. I don't know exactly what's in their power and what isn't. I do know that in the eye of public opinion...I think they'll grow weary of one person after another ignoring Congress. If you have nothing to hide, you'd do it. Hillary did....how many hours did she sit up there answering questions, stupid questions?

Trump's support has deteriorated in the midwest. I wonder how he looks in Pennsylvania. That's the simplest path to victory for either side.

#10 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

PaSnow wrote:

Hannity must be on vacation, Flagg hasn't posted in a while.:o

/burn

Here....I'll engage you...

It seems like Trump is baiting the Dems into pursuing impeachment. I'm not sure if he thinks the Dems are too big of pussies (which they usually are) to follow through or he seems to think this will help him somehow.

I will say this...a Republican from the Senate coming out could open up a deluge.

I've often thought that the Republicans would only get rid of him if they had a back up plan. Or if he'd served his purpose. Perhaps getting rid of him in time for 2020 is ideal. They can participate in the primary season knowing full well Trump is not going to be back.

But who knows...all I know is Trump sucks. He's everything I hate in a leader. He's blustery, takes credit for things other people have done, blames other when things go wrong. He's so fuckin' lazy too. Outside of pep rallies and meeting with the media, he does nothing but tweet and go golfing.

Some people really love that shit...clearly. They're easily distracted by this guy who walks around and claims victory over everything. They love bluster with no follow through.

Another thing I've considered is while there are things about being president that Trump clearly likes...he'd be president until his mid-late 70s if he won again. How much life could he have left? My guess is he'd rather spend it getting fatter and fucking around on his wife.

At some point, he may become satiated to all of this...and decide he wants that old life back.

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