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#1 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 10 hours ago

buzzsaw wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Your story is surely representative of some people, of course, just like polls are. My buddy in Midland is not of the same mindset, so I can't corroborate your anecdote or speak more broadly of their population based on his opinion. It's an interesting battleground state, for sure.

The area that had dams break and she refused to lift any orders to help?  No, she has very few friends there.

This is absurd...question polls all you want, but a state that voted for trump by tenths of a percentage point then voted a female into office as its governor by a considerable larger margin.

She is more than fine.

#2 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 17 hours ago

bigbri wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
bigbri wrote:

It won't be Abrams. Baldwin and Whitmer are interesting because that gives Biden a fairly popular elected official from crucial states Wisconsin and Michigan, and in Wisconsin the Dem governor would appoint a Dem replacement. Harris is probably the safest choice for Biden, as it doesn't put any doubt that a Dem Senator would win the seat back.

If that's Michigan's governor, she's out.  She will get destroyed for her handling of the virus.  Her state hates her.

There's only a vocal minority against her. Poll after poll during this whole thing has shown most support how this is being handled. Even Republicans surveyed say those ridiculous protests were inappropriate.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ … 227671002/

"Overall, 64% of those surveyed approved of Whitmer's response, compared to 33% of those who did not. Unsurprisingly, Democrats were particularly supportive, with 96% approving of her actions, and Republicans in opposition, with 79% disapproving.

But Independents, a key voting bloc in Michigan, came down on Whitmer's side, 65%-28%. Forty percent of them said they strongly approved of her actions.

"By any standard, those are terrific numbers for any political figure," Czuba said.

https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/storie … s-on,14442

Tuesday’s Washington Post-Ipsos poll has Whitmer’s coronavirus approval rating at an amazing 62%. It’s a great number. Trump’s is at 43%. Not good.

About a week ago, however, Whitmer’s University of Minnesota-Ipsos approval number was at 72%. Also, her 62% was tied for 37th among the nation’s 50 governors ... and only one had an approval rating below 50%. Every governor but the Georgia guy has a great number and by comparison, Whitmer’s isn’t all that special.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/ … .png&w=916

If you want to argue polls, I guess you can, but there's no shred of evidence Michigan hates Whitmer. There's a ton of evidence they hate Trump though.

Excellent post...those people who showed up with guns accomplished nothing. They looked like man babies and woman babies.

#3 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 21 hours ago

buzzsaw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Nope.  When push comes to shove, people are going to vote against the Dems.  The right will fear-monger their way to victory unless the left does a better job of fear-mongering.

This will be the sleaziest election ever.  It will be more negative than ever and both sides have easy targets.  Nobody will be motivated by the candidate, so it's all about who can be more sleazy.  Pathetic.

This is exactly what trump wanted.

Nope.  You're not going to get away with playing the one-sided card on this.  Democrats are equally responsible...they can't even trust their own party to get the nomination right so they've now rigged two primaries in a row for their preferred candidate and he's as sleazy as Trump.

You hate everyone so....there’s that.

Seriously...who is your ideal candidate? Is it a real person?

Trump is most responsible and you can’t convince me otherwise...you can’t make fun of and admonish people all day and expect them not to retaliate or cooperate later.

#4 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 23 hours ago

Yea i should’ve included Abrams but for some reason i thought i remembered reading her saying she wasn’t interested...

#5 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 33 hours ago

By the way...I think the VPs Biden is considering...I"ll rank them....

1) Kamala Harris
2) Whitmer
3) Tammy Baldwin
4) Klobachur (spelling?)

I'd prefer the bottom two honestly...midwest women are bad ass and not provocative...

Kamala is bad ass smart though....and Democrats can't be afraid of that...

Biden has a hard choice...he'd better make the right one.

#6 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 33 hours ago

misterID wrote:

I honestly think he wants to lose.

I rrrrreally wish there was a viable third party candidate.

If we all agree that he didn't want to president in the first place and this thing just got out of control and we're here now......Trump has maybe 10 years left....who wants to spend 4 of them doing this?

I guess I could say the same about Biden... but he's the challenger...so I think that's a bit different....

I think Trump accomplished his personal goals.

#7 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 42 hours ago

I’ve been reading that the portion of voters that hate both candidates but still vote are going Biden by a 4-1 margin right now. Not that any of that matters in May/June.

Trump got those same voters by a similar margin in 2016.

Thought that was interesting.

#8 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

buzzsaw wrote:
misterID wrote:

I think Trump is done. The Scarborough thing just broke him, along with his new press secretary. He's lost the "hold your nose and vote" republicans. All he has left are the sheep.

I'm not voting if Biden selects Abrams or Harris, can't do it. Biden is getting worse and worse, and the only thing that will change my mind is selecting Klobuchar.

Nope.  When push comes to shove, people are going to vote against the Dems.  The right will fear-monger their way to victory unless the left does a better job of fear-mongering.

This will be the sleaziest election ever.  It will be more negative than ever and both sides have easy targets.  Nobody will be motivated by the candidate, so it's all about who can be more sleazy.  Pathetic.

This is exactly what trump wanted.

#9 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

misterID wrote:

I think Trump is done. The Scarborough thing just broke him, along with his new press secretary. He's lost the "hold your nose and vote" republicans. All he has left are the sheep.

I'm not voting if Biden selects Abrams or Harris, can't do it. Biden is getting worse and worse, and the only thing that will change my mind is selecting Klobuchar.

Can you tell me why you think the Scarborough thing will break him? It seems to me he’s done worse things than this before...McCain being one.

#10 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 4 days ago

Seriously...what happened to the GOP? Why is everything some elaborate conspiracy theory?

Why does the president refuse to follow any of the instructions the CDC and refuses to acknowledge the FDA? Why does he take a pharmaceutical that has no benefit!and risks his life at his age? Why does he inquire about the possibility of consuming disinfectant as a cure for corona?

This whole political movement started with the conspiracy theory that Obama was some Muslim spy who wasn’t even born here.

These guys are deranged...

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