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#991 Re: Guns N' Roses » Interview with Skwerl » 868 weeks ago
Stepvhen wrote:I am so happy I don't live in america. The idea of giving guns to guys who probably barely scraped a High school education standard is just fucking insane.
Gross generalization.
I know guys who never made it into high school, and know the proper way to handle, clean, and use a weapon/firearm, and have seen Ph.D's clean their guns by looking down into the barrel, and then going, "oh yeah, is this loaded?"
Im not commenting on the right way to handle/clean/use a gun. Im commenting on the type of society that has come to rely so heavily on weaponry designed to kill another human being nad allow almost any fool to own one of these weapons for the monetay betterment of a rich elite.
Surgical terms like weapon/firearm simply detract from the truth of what these devices are. They are words to hide behind so that people don't have to feel guilty when they talk about their Killing Tools.
Im not just taking pot shots at America here that seems to be fashionable of late. America is obviously a hot spot and prime example of these cultural retardations however it is now rampant on this Globe of ours as a whole
#992 Re: The Garden » 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault... » 868 weeks ago
Stepvhen wrote:Yeah its fucked up but Charging a 14 yr old as an adult is just as bad...
What? I don't see your logic. That 14 year old boy was probably the leader of a group of kids who gangraped an 8 year old girl.
Hes 14 we don't know his mental health / family / social situation. If that was a rich 14 year old white american he wouldnt be tried as an adult
#993 Re: Guns N' Roses » Some asshat trying to trash MSL » 868 weeks ago
Robin has his moments, but we all know the 'talent' to come out of CD era in terms of guitar.
??? Huge ain' THAT good
#994 Re: Guns N' Roses » ok i take it this is official confirmation dj ashba hasnt left gnr... » 868 weeks ago
Stepvhen wrote:I was in Limerick when it came out HMV was covered in Posters and had LOTS of Cases for sale on the morning at least half of those were gone after lunch that same day..
The botched promotion is one of the most unfortunate aspects of the release. Love or hate the album, but that part of it was handled terribly. Hell, even Best Buy stores didn't all have those displays up, which is idiotic. The album wasn't gonna sell by the truck load here under any circumstance, but Best Buy and to a certain extent Uni didn't even give it a chance.
ANyway I got no official figures or any of that fancy shit so I'll just say Germany Ireland and Spain in that order MASSIVE guns n roses fanbases. (Im basing this on NU GNR
"Nu GNR" doesn't have a massive fanbase anywhere. They have a fan base in the thousands worldwide, and the rest are either casual fans or fans of the old band. There isn't even a promo pic of any post 93 line up in existence, they've never did one interview with a mainstream media outlet(Tommy the exception), but you think they have a massive fan base? Gimme some of what you're smoking or snorting....
If they toured right now and you went to a show, you could poll the audience and probably one out of every thousand people could name the members of the band.
I do agree that GNR seems to have a bigger Euro base than U.S., but lets not go off the deep end.
Maybe fanbase is the wrong phrase. They do not have active fans talking about them on a regular basis or even following the band on the internet are up to date etc. it is commonly accepted though that GNR is Axl and his new guys. There are very little hardcore fanbases for any bands in europe outside of Metallica and Slipknot. Apart from that most europeans follow flavour of the month Killers/Kings of Leon mass produced shit when it comes to rock.
Then there are the Sacred Cows. The bands that though they have no "Active" fans every body has respect for and nobody would pass up the chance to see them in concert (for a fairly priced ticket fee were talking 60e-80e for GNR). Their albums and singles may ot even sell that well but they earn respect for their overall body of work and whatever God Like Image they have forged for themselves. These highly respected and revered bands are Guns N Roses, Oasis, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Aerosmith and Ac/Dc
The Chillis reached this status only lately and of all of these Oasis are the most relevant with huge album sales and single sales to this day. These bands are unshakeable in the heart of Europe.
Guns and Axl in particular hold icon status here still. A lot of Europe is Pro Axl. Take for instance the Germany. When guns bust out in 1987/8 Axl epitomised the rebellious brave FREE male stereotype that so many young berlin men wished they could be. He was the American dream, the Face and Voice of western democracy for so many young german men oppressed by the political situation at the time and by that device mental bullying/conditioning that was the Berlin wall. Axl not slash was their icon.
I can still remember the German Books I used to have in School (only 4 years ago) where there would be interviews with german kids about their lives (all these books were from the 88/89 era as the wall was coming down) They would always be questioned on sport and music. Their sports heroes were always the ones who achieved against great odds and created new lives for themselves in democratic USA and Europe.
Their heroes always the Same Always Axl Rose as he was a symbol of freedom to them.We used to do listening tests where our teacher would play tapes of these interviews and we would have to translate the interviews.
Shit like that isnt easily forgotten. Those kids are working adults now with the cash to see thier child hood hero. You can call it nostalgia but its a very potent nostalgia that links to strong memories for them.
There are a lot of Polish in Ireland that moved over to work during the boom. ANy of Polish friends when I ask them about it have an undieing respect for Axl as he was the same for them a Cultural icon.
Even in Ireland during the late 80s when we were all piss poor. He was a cultural icon that represent the Poor farm Boy made good. Thats what we were back then a Nation of poor farm boys. He was a Cultural symbol here an inspiration I have memories of watching the YCBM vid in 1992 and being in awe of the man while my best friends sister was telling me a 5year old kid that she was gonna marry Axl Rose she was about 8 at the time 
. Axl was ALWAYS THE man among the mainstream culture in Europe. Those who played music themselves had respect for Slash as a musician but he was never the cultural Icon Axl was and remains to be to this day over here.
Funny thing is this was passed on. This love of Axl was passed from Sibling to Sibling and Father to Son -NO JOKE- I was introduced to Guns N Roses when a close frined of mine was Given Use your Illusions 2 by his Brother one Christmas. He Taped it and gave it to me This was in 2001. I been hooked ever since. I love them. My little sister holds them in the highest regard due to me influencing her by playing the damn thing 24/7.
Wow what a rant....
Anyway Axl is an Icon here he could roll into town unannounced with with Drake Bell (from Drake & Josh) on lead guitar and it would stirr up so much comotion that within an hour hed be playing to the inhabitants of every townin a 100 mile radius
#995 Re: The Sunset Strip » Soundgarden Reunion? » 868 weeks ago
I also hate how they always give themselves an 'out' when mentioning a reunion. It can never be yes or no. Gotta keep hope alive I guess.
I Love it the will they won't they its exciting. If they came out and said no we won't Id me massively sad.
If they way "You never know" and then don't you always got that phenomenon of lookin back and saying "remember when SG nearly reunited That was soo exiting" and that feeling of butterflies in your stomach that IT COULD HAPPEN comes back to you.
If they DO well needless to say I will probably meet you at the front rail of the SG pit for every god damn stop on that tour
#996 Re: The Garden » Man bursts into flames after Taser shock » 868 weeks ago
Olorin wrote:Should've done the guy a favour and just shot him
That's what happened in TN over the weekend. A guy was threatening to commit suicide, so the cops shot him 6 times. How kind of them.
!!! Sweet Jesus.... Shit like that never happens here. Thats insane
#997 Re: The Garden » 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault... » 868 weeks ago
Yeah its fucked up but Charging a 14 yr old as an adult is just as bad...
#998 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best album of the 90s elimination- Round 3 » 868 weeks ago
shit clicked the wrong one!
just voted chillis mean to vote Nirvana
#999 Re: Guns N' Roses » ok i take it this is official confirmation dj ashba hasnt left gnr... » 868 weeks ago
But they still managed to sell 35,000 tickets and sell out the RDS Arena in Dublin back in 2006.
More than Metallica two days later.
I'm just saying... Things weren't exactly bad in Europe.
From what I have seen Guns have a VERY hardcore European fanbase. ESPECIALLY in Germany Spain and Ireland. I can tell you if GNR said they were gonna do Slane this year in Ireland it would Sell out. ! If they did Oxegen they would headline whereas NIN and Janes Addiction were on the 2nd stage .. THe killers headlined of NIN....!!! Chinese Democracy did Well in Ireland too much better than I had expected. I was in Limerick when it came out HMV was covered in Posters and had LOTS of Cases for sale on the morning at least half of those were gone after lunch that same day.... ANyway I got no official figures or any of that fancy shit so I'll just say Germany Ireland and Spain in that order MASSIVE guns n roses fanbases. (Im basing this on NU GNR by the way old Gnr goes with out saying as having a massive following in most coutries)
#1000 Re: Guns N' Roses » Interview with Skwerl » 868 weeks ago
I am so happy I don't live in america. The idea of giving guns to guys who probably barely scraped a High school education standard is just fucking insane.
