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#1041 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 346 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:buzzsaw wrote:Well if someone could just prove he committed a crime instead of making things up and exaggerating things, your life would be so much better.
He witheld $400 million from Ukraine. Mitch McConnell even acknowledged this. After the phone call, in which Ukraine agreed to investigate Biden, he GAVE Ukraine the $400 million.
This is completely inaccurate. Can you link a single news article that supports this view? Not the joke Schiff made of his committee once again, this week. But someone in the know actually substantiating that claim? Has Ukraine done any investigation? You want to portray this as some mob thing, but it's not. Mob bosses don't pay the hitman before they do the job.
Uggghh, here we go again:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ad … a85cb1ac09
Trump, in remarks to reporters at the United Nations on Tuesday, confirmed that he held up the aid but said he did so to fight corruption and urge European nations to share in helping out Ukraine.
“As far as withholding funds, those funds were paid,” Trump said. “They were fully paid. But my complaint has always been, and I’d withhold again and I’ll continue to withhold until such time as Europe and other nations contribute to Ukraine.” He named Germany and France as among the countries that should “put up money.”
*yawn*
#1042 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 346 weeks ago
Well if someone could just prove he committed a crime instead of making things up and exaggerating things, your life would be so much better.
He witheld $400 million from Ukraine. Mitch McConnell even acknowledged this. After the phone call, in which Ukraine agreed to investigate Biden, he GAVE Ukraine the $400 million. Then, the placed recordings of the call into 'Top Secret' records, and had Trumps personal lawyer work with Ukraine directly. If its Top Secret, why is some rando private lawyer and his lackeys working on the case. If there was no crime, why cover up the phone call, and don't give me idiot Kelly Conways idiot response.
And now the Ukraine Special Envoy resigns. Yeah, I'm sure this is all on the level
You see, you only thing its legal, because you saw the President do it. If someone asked you 5 years ago if it would be legal for a politician to potentially do all this, you woulda said 'No thats Nixon type stuff'. But since you saw the president really do it, you're saying 'No, a president is allowed to do all this. Its legal'.
Its not. Do u want foreign countries blacknailing us and being blackmailed? Do u want loser presidents using the office for their own personal gain or the gain of their parties election status?
#1043 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 346 weeks ago
Just beat the mother fucker. Trump will win, again
Win. Commit crimes. Win.
Sounds like a strategy.
#1044 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 346 weeks ago
Republicans plan is to get thru Friday, let the Sunday morning talk shows cycle out, and try to cool things down Monday dismissing it. Their argument is weak. "The phone call was ok & legal" Then explain the decision WH made to coverup. No one does just saying it's Mueller2.0
#1045 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 346 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Busy at werk.
Dealing with a jerk.Is that you Pence?
lol
#1046 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 346 weeks ago
Interesting conundrum. If you are ok with the call then you'd have issue with the coverup. If you are opposed to the call then you understand why they covered it up.
#1047 Re: The Garden » NEW MEMBERS introduce yourself here » 346 weeks ago
That's fucking amazing and crazy. WWII was the gnarliest time on our planet, perhaps.
Vietnam would give it a good run for it's money.
Did any of you see Ken Burns Vietnam? 10 part 1 hour episodes. Really good, starts off essentially post WW2 thru the 50s, then JFK, then 64-65, then the height of it, summer of love, 70, and the end and withdrawl. A few of them tell some really deep stories, murder essentially, but it was them or the other guy. What was impressive was early on, alot of the troops who'd never heard of Vietnam, were in awe over how pretty a country it could be. The green grass & rice fields, always had a bit of a fog over it in the mornings.
#1048 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ Ashba Recalls GN'R Fans Insulting Him After Taking Slash's Position » 346 weeks ago
Ron you know what I loved Buckethead over him. But, the dude was mellow, and friendly with the fans. So I never sent the hate his way.
I agree. Ron was just a guy in a bad spot but he handled it well. Was a cool dude, didn't pretend "He" was Guns N Roses. Just played the songs, was cool to fans, and didn't ham it up like Guns was his. Surprised Tommy never bailed once it became a circus act, it lost alot of credibility but I suppose was a paycheck, especially once touring, as cheesy as it became.
Ashba was a douche but I was checking out by that point.
#1049 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 346 weeks ago
It seems this too is remaining partisan. (somehow).
1. We have a president who seeked assistance from a foreign country help in affecting the outcome of his upcoming election.
2. We have a president asking a foreign leader to speak directly with his personal attorney.
3. We are continuing to learn about a possible coverup.
4. We have an AG who knew about all of this & kept it under wraps. (That's troubling)
Everythings out there, we'll learn more in the upcoming days. Not much more I wanna discuss, again, had a shit day (unrelated, guy was an ass).
#1050 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ Ashba Recalls GN'R Fans Insulting Him After Taking Slash's Position » 346 weeks ago
People were mad because he took Robin's spot, not Slash.
Yeah, I might have called him Hot Topic Slash.
Hot Topic Slash is a good one.
Five Below Slash could be a better fit.
