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#1061 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 502 weeks ago
But Trump is right about Democrats being the ones responsible when premiums spike again next year and more insurers leave the exchange.
Trump is wrong and so are you.
Marco Rubio is the reason for that spike. He gutted the risk corridor provision of Obamacare inside a spending bill. As a result insurance companies were only getting paid 13% of what they were promised by the law. What do you think is going to happen then? He did more damage to the ACA than anybody else, but he also hurt businesses, and consumers. Something he professes to care so deeply about. He's a pure slimeball through and through.
All major insurance companies warned that by doing this it would implode the markets, and that's exactly what happened. Over half of the non profit insurance companies inside the exchanges have gone bankrupt. Many are now suing the government for breach of their obligations. Others raised premiums and left the market altogether.
Of course then people like Marco Rubio will turn around and say "See! It's failing!" Well of course it's failing, he fucked up one of the most important financial aspects of the law. One that keeps these insurance companies solvent.
So quit lying about this shit, it's already been pointed out to you.
Hopefully they get tax reform moving and follow up quickly with immigration reform. I'm hoping Trump and co lead a push to primary all the freedom caucus retards. We already have one party screaming like a toddler, we don't need that in the GOP as well.
I don't think "quick" is panning out for Trump. So far he's failed twice on his travel ban, healthcare and having Mexico pay for his wall. Furthermore their healthcare overhaul was supposed to be the first segment of their tax reform, so they're already behind on that. Because of this, it's going to be very difficult for Agent Orange to propose any cuts that don't grow the deficit and pile on more debt.
The reality is that Trump can't lead. He doesn't understand how government works and is simply too toxic. With more failures to enact legislation around the corner Wall Street's suckers rally is going to come to an end once reality sets in as well.
#1062 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 502 weeks ago
Yes, this atrocious bill went down in flames because the tea party freaks thought this wasn't conservative enough. On the other hand the more moderate wing didn't want to see the Medicaid expansion taken away from their constituents.
Curious to see how tax reform goes then.
#1063 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 502 weeks ago
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#1065 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 503 weeks ago
Hey guys, turns out it was just a big misunderstanding. Apparently while we speak English, Trump (and unbeknownst to me, many Republicans) speaks "Americanese". So while our friends on the right side of the aisle understood what Trump was saying, we were just confused this entire time.
Hope that clears everything up, sorry for the confusion!
#1066 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 503 weeks ago
When it's clear that Trump is lying through his teeth about Obama "tapping" him, and even the GOP is saying it's false, Nunes throws him a lifeline. Just enough to muddy the water and take the heat off Donny. It's all pretty fucked up if you ask me.
Making America great again isn't easy I guess, huh?
#1067 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 503 weeks ago
New documents show Trump aide laundered payments from party with Moscow ties, lawmaker alleges
KIEV, Ukraine — A Ukrainian lawmaker released new financial documents Tuesday allegedly showing that a former campaign chairman for President Trump laundered payments from the party of a disgraced ex-leader of Ukraine using offshore accounts in Belize and Kyrgyzstan.
The new documents, if legitimate, stem from business ties between the Trump aide, Paul Manafort, and the party of former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, who enjoyed Moscow’s backing while he was in power. He has been in hiding in Russia since being overthrown by pro-Western protesters in 2014, and is wanted in Ukraine on corruption charges.
The latest documents were released just hours after the House Intelligence Committee questioned FBI Director James B. Comey about possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Moscow. The hearing that also touched on Manafort’s work for Yanukovych’s party in Ukraine.
Comey declined to say whether the FBI is coordinating with Ukraine on an investigation of the alleged payments to Manafort.
Manafort, who worked for Yanukovych’s Party of Regions for nearly a decade, resigned from Trump’s campaign in August after his name surfaced in connection with secret payments totaling $12.7 million by Yanukovych’s party. Manafort has denied receiving those, listed in the party’s “black ledger.”
Serhiy Leshchenko, a lawmaker and journalist, released a copy of an invoice on letterhead from Manafort’s consulting company, based in Alexandria, Va., dated Oct. 14, 2009, to a Belize-based company for $750,000 for the sale of 501 computers.
On the same day, Manafort’s name is listed next to a $750,000 entry in the “black ledger,” which was considered a party slush fund. The list was found at the party headquarters in the turmoil after Ukraine’s 2014 revolution. The ledger entries about Manafort were released by the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, a government law enforcement agency, last August.
Leshchenko alleges that Manafort falsified an invoice to the Belize company to legitimize the $750,000 payment to himself.
“I have found during this investigation that [Manafort] used offshore jurisdictions and falsified invoices to get money from the corrupt Ukrainian leader,” Leshchenko said during a news conference in downtown Kiev, where he provided a copy of the invoice to journalists.
He said he received the invoices and other documents in January from the new tenants of Manafort’s former offices in downtown Kiev. The documents were left behind in a safe, he said, adding that Manafort’s signature and his company seal were proof that the documents were authentic.
Leshchenko said he was not aware of any formal Ukrainian investigation of the documents. He declined to comment on whether he had discussed the documents with U.S. law enforcement agencies.
Nazar Kholodnytskyi, a deputy prosecutor general of Ukraine whose department specializes in corruption cases, said in an interview on Tuesday that the documents hadn’t been confirmed by law enforcement or, to his knowledge, submitted for examination. There is an ongoing investigation into the black ledgers, he said, but Manafort was not a target of that investigation.
Manafort has previously accused Leshchenko of blackmailing him by threatening to release harmful information about his financial relationship with Yanukovych. That correspondence between Leshchenko and Manafort’s daughter was released in February as the result of a purported cyberhack. Leshchenko has called the exchange a forgery.
Manafort was involved in crafting the political strategy that brought Yanukovych to power after a crushing defeat in the 2004 elections. Yanukovych’s party has been accused of ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin, particularly through wealthy oligarchs from the country’s east with interests in both Russia and Ukraine.
#1068 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 503 weeks ago
LOL x 2 ^^
#1069 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 503 weeks ago
Bring your daughter to work day...
#1070 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 503 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:As of now this is a non story with potential to become a story.
It's been a non issue since day one when not a single Democrat, with all the leaks, could provide a single shred of evidence. That hasn't changed. It's fan fiction for those unwilling to accept they lost the election.
haha, yea I'm sure you said that with Hillary's emails, or Benghazi...or anything else Hillary...same for Smoking Guns.
https://www.infowars.com/nsa-documents- … lex-jones/
Am I doing it right? Or are we only using fake news when it comes from Mother Jones or Think Progress?
Who here is putting up info from lefty sites constantly as a source?
Besides, many of us have said several times, the majority of what we discuss is something Trump actually said or did. Trump is the source. His Twitter feed, the GOP health care bill they put forth, the proposed budget and what they will be gutting. Nobody needs a lefty site for this.
I may be wrong, but was Carter, Reagan, HW, Clinton, Bush or Obama ever being mentioned as involved in an investigation by the head of the FBI?
It's NOT normal.
You're certainly not wrong.
Regardless of what they find or do not find, an investigation that includes the POTUS and his administration in possible cahoots with Russia is a big fucking deal. I've never seen anything like it in my life. The FBI feels it has enough evidence to warrant an investigation.
