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#1081 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
polluxlm wrote:If he makes insane decisions he will be relieved from office.
Not unless he is impeached, and a GOP House wouldn't do that. We'd be stuck with him for at least 4 years. And even if he is out, we're stuck with Mike Pence, who is about as bad as Ted Cruz.
A GOP house wouldn't impeach an insane decision by Trump? When they already hate him? The GOP has done a good job exposing themselves as phony Republicans when finally a candidate who promises to fulfill all their lofty slogans appear, and they shun him. With Trump, in terms of opposition, it wouldn't be a GOP House, it would be a DNC house.
And if he does something really, really bad like decide to nuke France, he can be removed on the spot on grounds of insanity. Need the consent of cabinet and VP.
Pence would be the lamest duck in town if the tried anything funny. It's not easy to oppose the will of the political establishment as we have seen. Trump has a potential for vibrancy since he's such a magnetic personality, but that's about it. Trump will not change America on paper, but he might on ideas.
I see no reason for alarm is my point. He's a shot and I'm taking it.
#1082 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
I'm not afraid of Trump. Part of me hopes he wins.. the sadistic part, the part that loves to say, "I told you so".
Because I know exactly what he's going to do. He's a self serving lying bastard and he's going to continue to be precisely that. It will be a disaster.
I'm kinda looking forward to coming on here and pointing and laughing (some more) at buzz/SG..If YOU don't know what he's going to do, how can you possibly trust him?! You make no sense.
You act like he's some kind of anarchist or revolutionary when in fact he's a reactionary bully who has benefited handsomely from the system you profess to hate. - & on that point, just because the system doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for some. You think Trump represents you is only evidence you believe his lies.That point Moore makes about the fuck you feeling good, yea for that split second that it takes these fuckwits to mark their X, & they get a dopamine hit. But when the fallout comes and they're even further up shit creek without a paddle how are they going to feel then? & who is going to represent them then? These lies are too important to believe.
Everybody in government is a self serving bastard. What exactly is different about Trump? Incompetence and warmongering? Racial incitement? That's what we have right now buddy. You think he's going to start a world war or something? Because that's about the only level left.
Trump represents hope. That you can elect someone the elite does not want. In the Rome of our day. That precedent is more important than almost anything.
#1083 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
You already had Bush II in there, I wouldn't worry about incompetence too much. Scary? If he makes insane decisions he will be relieved from office. It's not like Hitler where you have a young, forced democracy in a millenia old autocratic culture.
Really, unless you think things are going great for the country and the west right now, there's no logical reason to be afraid of a Trump presidency. At worst it will be business as usual.
#1084 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
Hillary is a lying, establishment prick. Prodding a stick to Putin's balls. Why are you afraid of Trump again?
It's not because he is establishment, it's because you don't know what he's going to do.
#1085 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
This is what Mike Pence is talking about. 
#1086 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
Michael Moore unintentionally makes a strong case for Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADHLsECWxY
#1087 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
Confidence high in the Trump camp:
Pence: “I think there’s gonna be a whole lot of people, you know, sitting on the cable TV shows scratching their heads come election night"
— Ines de La Cuetara (@InesdLC) October 25, 2016
#1088 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
Early voting suggests tight race in key states despite Clinton camp boast
Hillary Clinton’s campaign is touting some “eye-popping” advantages in early voting, in an apparent effort to energize Democratic voters, but preliminary figures suggest the race remains tighter than her aides acknowledge.
The preliminary numbers appear to show Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, with an edge in several of the roughly 10 battleground states that will decide the 2016 White House race.
“We're seeing eye-popping vote-by-mail application numbers,” Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said on “Fox News Sunday.”
In Arizona and North Carolina, for example, more registered Democrats than Republicans have indeed cast early ballots.
But such numbers are open to interpretation, including how many Democrats in those two states voted for Clinton.
Meanwhile, early data shows Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump with potential advantages of his own in battleground states Florida, Ohio and elsewhere.
Only some of the 37 states that allow early voting make public the number of registered Democrats and Republicans who requested early ballots and voted early, so final numbers won’t be known until Election Day.
Still, the Clinton campaign seemed bolstered in recent days by mail-in balloting in battleground Florida, where in-person voting started Monday in a majority of counties.
Early Florida numbers showed about an equal number of Democrats and Republicans had requested a record 3.1 million early ballots, compared with 2008 when Republicans led 49-to-32 percent and President Obama still won the state.
However, registered Republicans now have a slight lead -- 1.8 percentage points -- in the nearly 1 million ballots received by Friday.
Trump, on a swing through Florida on Monday, made another push for supporters to cast their votes now.
“You got to get out there. Who’s voted already?” Trump asked a cheering crowd in St. Augustine. “If you’re not feeling well on Nov. 8, we don’t want to take a chance.”
Clinton said in battleground North Carolina on Sunday: “From now until Nov. 5, you can vote early. It’s a big deal. You get to vote today, right after this event.”
Mook also pointed out Sunday that in Nevada, officials saw a “record turnout” in Democratic stronghold Clark County, which includes Las Vegas.
However, Trump has throughout the campaign appeared to have the support of some potential crossover voters, including Latino immigrants who back his tough message on illegal immigration.
A recent CNN/ORC poll, for example, found 33 percent of registered Latino voters in Nevada support Trump, compared to 54 percent for Clinton.
The Clinton campaign declined Monday to provide details on the states to which Mook and vice-presidential nominee Tim Kaine referred Sunday.
Kaine told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that the campaign “like(s) the early voting activity and the absentee-ballot requests coming in.”
Kendra Stewart, College of Charleston political science professor, said Monday that Kaine and Mook are “doing exactly what they should be doing by trying to use this as an opportunity to create enthusiasm within the party in the hopes of a bandwagon effect.”
However, she cautioned about the effort perhaps “leaving some Democratic voters less motivated to vote if they feel like their candidate doesn’t really need them” and giving the Trump campaign the opportunity to use the underdog strategy to try to rally supporters to get out and vote.
Elliott Fullmer, a Randolph-Macon College political science professor, suggested either camp could play up select early-vote trends.
“I don’t think it would be a surprise for a campaign to think any positive momentum would play well,” Fullmer said Monday. “And the more they can discuss an advantage in early voting, they will.”
According to the University of Florida’s U.S. Elections Project, roughly 6 million Americans have already cast early votes, which do not include absentee ballots.
More than 46 million people are expected to vote before Election Day -- or as much as 40 percent of all votes cast.
The District of Columbia also allows early voting. Included in the 37 states that allow early voting are Colorado, Oregon and Washington, which have only mail-in balloting.
Clinton holds a 6 percentage point lead over Trump in national polls, according to the RealClearPolitcs average.
Clinton -- who has been the frontrunner for the entire race -- also has leads in battlegrounds states New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Virginia.
Trump leads in battlegrounds Georgia, Iowa, Missouri and Ohio.
Though neither Georgia nor Ohio break down early balloting by party affiliation, Trump appears to have an advantage in both states.
In Ohio, such requests are down 10 percent among black voters, who in recent decades have tended to vote for Democrats. And requests among Ohio’s increasing white population, a voting bloc in which Trump appears to do well, is up 3 percentage points, to 91 percent.
In Georgia, ballot requests and returns among black voters trail 2012 levels.
#1089 Re: Guns N' Roses » New GNR Airplane » 498 weeks ago
Looks like this is trending. One of my friends who isn't into the band at all sent the pic to me on facebook.
The old plane was cooler, but a plane's a plane I guess. Nothing says big shot like having your name on a major aircraft.
#1090 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DQn3Szi4aA
