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#1101 Re: Guns N' Roses » The bottom line » 760 weeks ago

I love their music and I go to the shows when they come.

I also love checking in for the latest installment of the GN'R soap opera too.  Honestly if this band wasn't sooo fucked up and dysfunctional, I'm sure during the long dead periods between new music or a tour I would lose interest.

You couldn't write a better script with some of the shit that goes down.  I enjoy the music, I enjoy the conerts but fuck me the drama is entertaining too!!!  16

#1102 Re: The Sunset Strip » Australia's Soundwave Festival 2012 » 760 weeks ago

True some of the clashes at the last one sucked. I remember they had Slayer on the small stage and you couldn't get near it - dickheads!

The price of the tickets  plus drinks certainly makes it an expensive day tho.

#1103 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Duff Book » 760 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:
Aussie wrote:

Axl gets pissed at Duff and Slash accusing them of lying yet they are simply telling the truth regarding what they were told Axl said. At the same time Axl is telling the truth in that he never said it.

That seems to be what happens quite often. Axl doesn't seem to aware of that though.

Yeah it's definitely a recurring theme. Reminds me of the "No Slash t-shirts allowed into the concert". I bet Axl didn't say it, I sure as hell bet someone else did and claimed it was under his direction.

Sadly he needs to cut out communicating thru middleman and other handlers because experience has shown they bull shit to him and end up causing more harm for him than good.

#1104 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Duff Book » 760 weeks ago

I saw Mark Canter post these comments in a similar bread at gunsnfnroses:

Also maybe it could have been better written. Maybe saying something like if Slash or Duff were to pass away that the remaining members should have control. That way they wouldn't have to deal with the wife's. That is why Duff probably said it was the lawyers. Lawyers always make things better for their own clients and due more than what was asked to. Also if you have ever tried to read one of those contracts, you will find that you almost have to be a lawyer to understand what it really says. Duff and Slash should have told Duog that we will have our lawyers take a look at it and will get back to you soon. Also Axl did not know how Doug presented those papers to Slash and Duff. That is why Axl tells a different story about this subject. I'm not even sure if Axl was aware of what all the fine print might have said in that contract. I know Axl would have been fine with Slash and Duff letting their lawyers take a look at it first. I also believe that Slash and Duff felt that if they didn't sign that their could be problems with Axl taking the stage. One thing I do know for sure, about two years ago I spoke to Doug on the phone and when I had told him that Ola Slash's mother passed away he cried and than told me to tell Slash that he was sorry for the way he handled some things back then.

And this:

I know both parties better than anyone else in the world and I'm telling you I believe all the parities are telling you the truth. I wish that it would have worked out better for everyone but the fact is by Slash and Duff signing that contract, all it did was help break up what was left of the Appetite line up and it also made it a lot harder for Axl to get new music out. Thats the short version. If they didn't sign it, they would have had to somehow work out their differences or break up. If they had to break up Axl still would have ended up with Robin and or Bucket and the other guys in 1997/98 and would have bean able to get out the new music much easer under a different name. By now there would be a least 5 times more music out from Axl. Also there would have been a much better chance of some type of reunion some day. Now there is almost no chance of that because there is already a band named Guns N' Roses out there. And Axl does have control of it and Slash would never work with Axl again unless they were both on the same level. Also Axl hates slash so much, so why would he work with him id he doesn't have to. It's just a big mess.

And this:

There is a lot of different things that held up the record and it would take a thousand words to explain and i'm not going to list the details and even then there is a lot that I don't know. One thing for sure, there was talk in 2001 of Slash playing on 3 songs with Axl for the record if Slash would apologize for some of the things he said about Axl that Axl said were not true. One of the big problems that Axl has with Slash is that he says Slash has lied about a lot of stuff. The problem is and I can't speak for everything, is some of the things that Slash has said is just Slash's point of view and if they sat in a room with a good middle man they would be able to work out about half of their problems, but I'm not so sure that all their problems would be worked out so soon.

#1105 Re: The Sunset Strip » Australia's Soundwave Festival 2012 » 760 weeks ago

Yeah I'm planning on going, looking forward to it.

I'm still pissed that Soundwave Rvolution was cancelled.

#1106 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Duff Book » 760 weeks ago

madagas wrote:

"With the crowd outside already getting rowdy, the guy then implied Axl wouldn't go onstage that night unless we signed the documents."

That part is sketchy...."implied"? Maybe Doug simply tricked them himself? Maybe Axl didn't threaten that? Maybe Doug did it as a ploy to get them to sign?

Just sayin....but I believe the overall story.

Yeah that is definitely a possibility, Axl never said it, but it doesn't mean Duff and Slash weren't told by someone, eg Goldstein that he said he wouldn't go onstage unless they signed.

Axl gets pissed at Duff and Slash accusing them of lying yet they are simply telling the truth regarding what they were told Axl said. At the same time Axl is telling the truth in that he never said it.

#1107 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Duff Book » 761 weeks ago

Oh very true, Slash and Duff reaped what they sowed. They were dumb enough or didn't care enough to stop Goldstein getting into a position that left them vulnerable and they paid the price.

#1108 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Duff Book » 761 weeks ago

That passage in that link you put Apex-twin really shows what a cunt Golstein was. He is just as mch responsible for the destruction of that band as anybody!

#1109 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Duff Book » 761 weeks ago

I'm waiting for my book to come from Amazon to read, but I had feared the GNR aspects of it might be small.

I know Duff has said in interviews it was more a personal book rather than his side of the GNR story.  That said I have wondered if he has kept a lid on a lot of the GNR stuff in an attempt to be more diplomatic.

Duff's tune has changed over more recent years and with Slash ditching him and VR for his solo stuff, maybe he feels it's best not to roast Axl too badly.  That way he can play both sides of the argument without standing too much in either camp.

#1110 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alternate artwork (NEW scans inside!) » 761 weeks ago

Yeah it is pretty crazy the dollars they are fetching.

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