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#1111 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Rock in Rio Freefall! » 787 weeks ago
Damage control. I knew that after this disaster that there will be people who'll try to convince us that we didn't see what we did see.
Anyway, I hope that the tour will get better. A lot better.
#1112 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 787 weeks ago
Ali wrote:russtcb wrote:Oh I'm happy with my Chicago tickets and I'll be happy with my Detroit ones. My initial concern was that the tour happen at all based on Axl's whole attitude at RiR
Understood, but to suggest there is something wrong with buying tickets despite what, as of now, stands as a single bad show, is absurd to me.
Ali
I saw someone on mygnr started a thread to basically "pat themselves on the back" for having not bought tickets prior to Rock In Rio and how there's no chance they'll buy tickets now.
The way I look at that is "Yippie for you!". If you start a thread like that, you probably never had any intention on buying tickets, supporting the band and were probably hoping for the worst anyways.
My thing is this; I'm calling a spade a spade. RiR (IMO) was a bad show for Axl. Not because of his weight, not because of his voice, not because of the rain, not because SoaD ran over, not because he flugged some lyrics, simply because his attitude was terrible.
Having lived through A LOT of GN'R mishaps in the past 20 or so years as all of us have, I've seen his attitude get in the way more than anything. So I honestly became completely worried that his attitude at RiR meant that there might be some rough times ahead. Up to and including just plain cancelling the US Tour.
Yeah, if I were an American hardcore GN'R (or Axl) fan, I'd buy my ticket in a heartbeat. This RIR fiasco would only drive me even more, cause there is a chance for a long hiatus and I'd want to see Axl. Good or bad, doesn't matter from this perspective, cause it's like seeing The Rolling Stones today - they are not as good as they usec to be, but who knows if there is another chance to catch a show? Poor sales would only raise the chance for the tour collapse.
I understand the softcores though, I'd never buy a ticket after RIR, if I was not a huge fan. People underestimate the power of youtube - if you wanna taste a band live, that's the first place people to go, and RIR is their freshest and HQ possibility.
#1113 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 787 weeks ago
@ GN'R Facebook, they posted the DJ Ashba solo ('Guns N' Roses and Monster Energy Music artist DJ Ashba'). So far 1 like and 275 comments...
#1114 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 787 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis wrote:I didn't catch the show last night. Does anyone know if its available for download yet?
It's up on dimeadozen.org
Hey mate i looked on that site couldnt see it their
It's back, if anyone's interested.
#1115 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis wrote:I didn't catch the show last night. Does anyone know if its available for download yet?
It's up on dimeadozen.org
Hey mate i looked on that site couldnt see it their
It has disappeared. 
I'm at 60%, what a waste.
#1116 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
I didn't catch the show last night. Does anyone know if its available for download yet?
It's up on dimeadozen.org
#1117 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
From someone 'not caring':
Slash: It's one of Axl's babies, where he sat down and he had something he really wanted to express, and he wrote it on piano. And so there came the time when the band had to figure out where the bass is gonna come in, where the guitar is gonna come in. This and that. And so, I did all the guitar arrangements on it and wrote the guitar melodies, which are pretty important to the song now, I would say. 'Cause you recognize 'em, you know. That's that. That's why I have credit on it [GN'R on WNEW 102.7 - September, 1991].
Slash: There were a few songs that were very involved guitar-wise on those albums. 'Estranged' was a big, long song. I used a Les Paul Gold Top on it; I recorded all of the melodies on the rhythm pickup with the tone turned all the way down. 'November Rain' was tough, too, as was another Axl song called 'Breakdown.' Those were all piano driven and they needed accompaniment; the guitar and bass parts had to be thought out and done precisely. Those songs were all pretty fucking cool, I have to say, but they took some work [Bozza, Anthony, & Slash (2007). Slash. Harper Entertainment: New York, pp 316].
Slash: It was hard to arrange [November Rain] and Estranged, because they were so open-ended and we had to cut November Rain. But those were Axl's epic piano pieces and they were both breakthrough guitar solos for me. Real melody solos, y'know? I had some good sounds and they were melodically very spontaneous [Music Radar, September 2011].
#1118 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
Bono wrote:madagas wrote:They nailed it, and you could tell they cared...probably cared more than Slash did when he did it back in the day.
Let's make sure that is kept in context though. They only cared more(argueably) because it wasn't their song to fuck up and they knew what that song means to the hardcore fanbase. they were tackeling a classic than many feel is Guns n" Roses greatest achievment. That song was Slash's song to fuck up, it wasn't these guys song to fuck up and had they fucked that song up shit would really have hit the fan. Thats' why i think they cared so much. the pressure was on big time for that one. But it's not like it ment more to them than Slash as far as anytnig personal goes. At least i wouldn't believe so.
I think their performance of Estranged was flat out awesome.
agree, they cared because they knew how much the fans cared...as for Slash caring, not so sure how much he cared at the time because every interview he gives he slags a little on the epics. I have never heard him say anything all that positive about Estranged. He always seems to talk about the difficulties in recording those epic tunes. Show me an interview where he says, "Hey, Axl really wrote some great lyrics and the piano melodies were cool. It really gave me an opportunity to branch out and be all that I can be." If he did an interview like that, I 'd like to see it.
GN'R just did its worst show in its entirely history and you're complaining about Slash?? Some other hateful comments in the thread against the man who wasn't even there, while some here (not you) are trying to lie even to themselves about the RIR catastrophe, finding excuses or simply saying that black is white. You made very good posts in this topic, but your hatred has just overgrown.
Slash did justice to that song every fuckin' night, and even if he made mistakes, he always gave 100%. Always. Even when he was dead and brought to hospital a day before. Fuck this shit. It's not Slash who didn't care enough.
BTW as much as Axl deserved it for his laziness and not giving a fuck about his own fans, I feel sorry for him. He was in a very bad shape, that was painful to even watch, I can imagine how bad it could have been for him. I hope he'll get better, cause I've never seen anyone so helpless, sad and lonely on a stage. He looked dying.
#1119 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n' Roses Assault Nostalgia With 'Rock in Rio' Return » 788 weeks ago
100 pages. The reviews can be here.
I've just watched NR. I felt sorry for Axl. He was very lonely and sad on the stage, in front of 200,000 people. He would have run away and stay hidden, if he could.
#1120 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n' Roses Assault Nostalgia With 'Rock in Rio' Return » 788 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Yeah, Axl was the architect and Slash the designer.
Anyway, except the '30+ song setlist', his words echoes what I read on the forum. I've only seen Rocket Queen, that was shockingly bad. Been downloading the show for an hour, but there are many peers and only one seed.
Good moments:
1. Estranged - band and Axl nailed it, crowd loved it.
2. TIL - mainly a good moment because the crowd sang along, which was shocking.
3. KOHD - good vocals, really good crowd reactions.
4. SOD - good vocals, good playing.
5. SCOM - band wasn't great but Axl's vocals were solid.Everything else was GARBAGE.
Well, this show seems to be historical. I have a close to pervert hobby of watching this trainwreck. I would have never downloaded the usual almost playback show, you know, when they're delivering, but nothing special's happening. But this whole Rio circus made me interested - it's not against this incarnation (which I don't care about), it's about the situation. I always liked watching the St Louis riot show, too, one of my favourite dvds, cause the feeling of something about to happen is all over the place. Like a Hitchcock movie, you know...
