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#1141 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
It's funny seeing all these assumptions at work.
1. The political establishment, including the media, are flawed but trying their best.
How anyone can still hold on to this faint belief after the year we've had has not done their homework.
2. Hillary Clinton could make a good President.
Objectively speaking she is a sort of symbol of the current political system: Ineffective, corrupt, dishonest, morally questionable. It will be business as usual and you all know it.
3. Trump is being attacked like no time before from every front imaginable because he is losing.
If he was already destroyed there would be no reason to expend all this energy. You push the gas until the goal is reached. There's no reason to keep warring if the war is won. They're definitely still scared.
#1142 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
Thing about the gender gap is that Hillary is losing more men than Trump is losing women. It's the low income minority vote that could sink him.
#1143 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
How many times have we heard that already?
I don't put much credence in polls conducted by Hillary's super PAC. Obviously designed to distract from the defeat on Sunday. Voters aren't that fickle. Check it out and you'll see the usual double digit oversampling of democrats.
Trump will battle on with enthusiasm and a solidified base. Prospective Hillary voters thinking it's a lock will only help him.
#1144 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
Doesn't want to be President? When's that gonna happen? There's a thousand times he could have tanked his campaign and got thrown off the ticket, by just not crawling out of messes.
The fear in the room is palpable.
Face it folks, Donald Trump does want to be President, and he's getting awfully close to getting it. Quite possibly already there once you realize Hillary won't get close to matching Obama's turnout.
#1145 The Garden » Brave Internet Browser (must get for firefox users) » 500 weeks ago
- polluxlm
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Just tried this.
It's basically firefox but 10x faster. Adblock included. Apparently made by one of the guys behind Mozilla who thought Firefox had turned to shit.
#1146 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
Most of those should read "inaccurately said", including for Hillary. 500 billion or 800 billion, it's close enough and makes the same point.
That ratio is laughable though. Using the authors own internal logic he should have included a bunch of Hillary's attacks on Trump as false. Viciously attacking Ms Universe for a week? Riiight.
#1147 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
Only thing I've seen so far is the "should be in jail" retort.
This should be good.
#1148 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 501 weeks ago
Right, Hillary helping the poor out of the goodness of her heart. I'm sure even democrats will struggle to believe that.
When you listen to the tape you can hear Hillary did a hell of a job to get the evidence thrown out, forcing a plea deal. If that's not getting your client off I don't know what is. No, obviously she is not in charge of sentencing, but she did her job and he walked for time already served. And now she remembers the case fondly because it helped her career.
Not a scandal in my book. I expect that is how most lawyers talk in private. But since macho talk in private is now suddenly a big deal to determine the fitness of a Presidential candidate I figured it was time to bring it up.
#1149 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 501 weeks ago
Yes, a "duh" for sure. But since we are talking about the moral character of Trump and Hillary it should matter. I mean, if we are going after Trump for being sexually promiscuous the fact that Hillary is an evil, corrupt creature seems relevant too.
#1150 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 501 weeks ago
polluxlm wrote:The reason why I say I'm surprised at all the fuzz about Trump is that stuff like this has been around for a long time:
So if nobody cares that Hillary got a child molester off and bragged and laughed about it, I fail to see why Trump making a lewd joke is such a big deal. Of course we know why there is such a disparity from the media, but nobody wants to talk about that either. Trump says mean things and knows how to do tax deductions, focus on that.
For those who still don't get it, the supporters of Trump are those who see how ridiculous this is. How screwed up such a system has become and how it desperately needs change. If it's the guy from the Apprentice with funny hair, so be it. They're not leaving us a lot of options.
I'd recommend everyone actually watch that video, 'cause Pollux's description above is disingenuous and in no way supported by the actual video. Yes, she's telling an anecdote of how she, in her time as a defense lawyer, once was able to drastically reduce someone's sentence based on a technicality. That was her friggin' job, her legal obligation as a defense attorney (and I'd say moral obligation as well). All she's doing in this video talking about how good she was at it, sharing an interesting anecdote that demonstrates how the system sometimes doesn't work, that is all...
Nothing to see here, as usual, but at the very least watch the video and see for yourself...
So yeah, Hillary does her job and does it well, doesn't commit any actual crimes: she supports child molestation. Trump talks about grabbing women in the pussy, in line with all of his other misogynistic exploits: he's just joking. And you have the gall to say the media is skewing the story... that's just insane.
There is nothing disingenuous whatsoever about stating she was laughing and bragging about it. That's what she's doing on that tape. There's a difference between doing your job and not caring about helping a child rapist out on the streets again. It was a good case for her, what does she care about the victim.
