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#1201 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
Yea, I was way off on Obama in 2008. I've been using that lesson learned to tell the rest of you to knock it off on Trump.
Just because you were duped by right wing media leading up to the Obama presidency doesn't mean we are duped by what Trump ACTUALLY SAYS leading up to his.
#1202 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
Not only did Obama create a vacuum that allowed ISIS to form...
This is such bullshit. Bush didn't have a handle on Iraq...Saddam did. Bush destabilized that region and turned it into a battle zone between various Muslim sects with American troops smack dab in the middle of it. It also became a battle cry for jihadist nutjobs to come and fight us.
Over ten years ago I said that Bush put us in an impossible position: We either stay in Iraq spending trillions, stuck in the middle of a civil war with thousands of American men and women dying, or we leave, handing Iraq over to Iran. That's exactly what happened.
Furthermore it was Bush who signed the Status Forces agreement before he left office, providing a timeline for withdrawal by 2011. Obama followed that timeline and pulled the troops out. The majority of Americans also wanted us out of Iraq, as our kids came home in caskets or with their limbs blown off.
The lies leading up to, during and after Iraq make me sick. Conservatives could never own this disaster and then had the nerve to blame Obama for its failure later.
#1203 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
Trump is a genius!!! Already trying to lower health care costs he got more fat women to walk in one day than Obama could do in 8 years. lol
It's shocking you're a Trump supporter...shocking!
#1204 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
If he gets the corporate tax rate dropped and brings hundreds of billions back in taxable income from businesses coming home, and keeps union jobs from being outsourced to Mexico, how can you not call him successful.
They won't do that. They'll just pocket the money and send the jobs overseas anyway.
#1205 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
You can poo poo all this I guess, but it's unprecedented.
#1206 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
More than 1 million people gathered in Washington and in cities around the country and the world Saturday to mount a roaring rejoinder to the inauguration of President Trump. What started as a Facebook post by a Hawaii retiree became an unprecedented international rebuke of a new president that packed cities large and small — from London to Los Angeles, Paris to Park City, Utah, Miami to Melbourne, Australia.
The organizers of the Women’s March on Washington, who originally sought a permit for a gathering of 200,000, said Saturday that as many as half a million people participated.
Many in the nation’s capital and other cities said they were inspired to join because of Trump’s divisive campaign and his disparagement of women, minorities and immigrants. In signs and shouts, they mocked what they characterized as Trump’s lewd language and sexist demeanor.
The marches provided a balm for those eager to immerse themselves in a like-minded sea of citizens who shared their anxiety and disappointment after Democrat Hillary Clinton’s historic bid for the presidency ended in defeat.
“We just want to make sure that we’re heard,” said Mona Osuchukwu, 27, a D.C. native. “I want her to know that she has a voice,” she said of her 3-year-old daughter, Chioma, who was with her at the march. “No matter what anyone tells her, especially as a black woman in America.”
Massive crowds gather for the Women’s March on Washington Play Video2:27
Hundreds of thousands of activists descended on downtown Washington for a rally and march, the day after President Donald Trump took office. The sheer number of attendees caused confusion and complicated logistics. (Video: Sarah Parnass/Photo: Oliver Contreras/The Washington Post)
The Washington demonstration was amplified by gatherings around the world, with march organizers listing more than 670 events nationwide and overseas in cities including Tel Aviv, Barcelona, Mexico City, Berlin and Yellowknife in Canada’s Northwest Territories, where the temperature was 6 degrees below zero.
In Chicago, the demonstration was overwhelmed by its own size, after 150,000 demonstrators swamped downtown blocks. It forced officials to curtail their planned march, although thousand of protesters still paraded around the Loop. In Boston, police estimated a gathering of 125,000. In Los Angeles, officials temporarily closed some side streets to accommodate the crowds.
“We are doing our best to facilitate, because they are squeezing into every street right now,” said Capt. Andrew Neiman of the Los Angeles Police Department.
New York, Miami, Denver and Seattle also had huge gatherings.
In Juneau, Alaska, one man marveled that the crowd was the biggest he had ever seen on the state Capitol’s steps. In Philadelphia, marchers filled city bridges. In Lexington, Ky., they shut down streets. In New Orleans, participants played brass instruments.
The fear — and anger — about Trump’s rise to the most powerful position in the United States reverberated at renowned protest sites around the world, from the Trocadero in Paris to Trafalgar Square in London.
Demonstrators came to Washington from around the country, sometimes sleeping on the couches of people they had never met. As of 4 p.m. Saturday, Metro had recorded more than 597,000 trips, a weekend ridership record. By comparison, as of 4 p.m. on Inauguration Day, there were 368,000 trips. The city issued about 1,800 bus parking permits for the march, and Amtrak added extra trains in and out of Union Station.
#1207 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
Good. So you agree with Trump that NATO countries should start to pony up what the treaty requires if they want to continue to live under the protection of our military.
You're the strangest Hillary voter I may have ever met.
#1208 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
I don't even understand the world you live in SG...you blindly celebrate him no matter what he does and you're critical of people organizing and marching?
This is the culmination of negativity - your precious president
I want Smoking Guns to go work on one of Trump's next projects and then sends him an invoice...let us know if he still supports him after that, haha.
I'm doing something Trump doesn't do this coming Monday. Paying my guys the full amount we agreed to on a handshake. No contract or written agreement of any kind. If I was a bad person I could easily screw them over and they would have zero recourse. But I wouldn't do that because I'm not a piece of shit like Trump is.
#1209 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:Looks like the womens march at DC will have bigger crowds than the inauguration.
They should've all gotten out and voted. Maybe they'd be having a different kind of march today. Maybe next time.
You know all these women personally? You know that none of them voted? That's a rather useless comment.
I don't remember anything like this politically in my lifetime. A protest march to an incoming president that exceeded the size of a presidential inauguration, with sister marches all over the country and around the world.
#1210 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 486 weeks ago
Lol, Obama dropped more bombs from Drones than all other US presidents combined. A lot of innocent folks died from his drones. Oh, and we had more terrorist attacks in our country and Europe than during all of the Bush era.
More bombs and drones, yet Obama is weak on terrorism? Oh, ok.
We had more terrorist attacks in our country during Obama than Bush? Ummm....911? WTF are you talking about.
Obama is not responsible for the safety of Europe.
