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#1201 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 799 weeks ago
In a way, they are fairly similar...both are sort of whiny, both have very loyal fanbases and both have broken up two iconic bands which the public constantly clamors for "reunion". Axl seems to be very independent by nature as well. Guys like them will always have issues with labels, managers, etc. What makes them both great, also makes them very difficult to deal with.
Axl is 'independent' in the way he doesn't want anyone else on the world a say in what he's doing and what not. But he's not independent at all when it comes to money. He likes to spend others' millions and he likes to spend a lot. He wants the label fund anything he wants at the moment, be it the 457th producer, the 52343rd guitarist or the 9394343993rd rerecording. Not an indepentent artist if you ask me.
#1202 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Oxegen 2011 interveiw » 799 weeks ago
As for his seldom played new songs - he busted out Snakepit's Been There lately and Speed Parade (underrated track), and Promise off his solo album. I think Patience might be a new addition to his set too.
Been There Lately
Nightrain
Ghost
Mean Bone
Back From Cali
Rocket Queen
Civil War
Nothing To Say
We're All Gonna Die (Todd Kerns vox)
Speed Parade
Starlight
Promise
Watch This
Rise Today
Patience
Guitar Solo / Godfather Theme
Sweet Child O' Mine
SlitherEncore:
By The Sword
Mr. Brownstone
Paradise City
What an amzing setlist 
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#1203 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Oxegen 2011 interveiw » 800 weeks ago
Thanks God, Fergie left before SCOM.
#1204 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 800 weeks ago
Even if they want to reunite, I still don't see why they'd reunite there though. It would get press I guess. But from a financial perspective it wastes the first time they've played together to someone elses gig. If feeling friendly why not do a one-off gig yourself for millions and millions of bucks.
Even if they don't play a note just get together again for 15 minutes, it'll be enough for me. Just end this hate game, please, and we'll see how it goes from there.
#1205 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 800 weeks ago
As I see it, getting Axl N' Slash together in the same room is equally hard as getting them together on stage.
My prediction is that no GN'R will perform and Axl won't even show up. He'll remain silent or swipe another venomous attack in the context of a Del James 'interview'. Maybe he could sue RRHOF for the misuse of the image of Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven, as their effort trying to deceive the public and ruin all the efforts Axl made in the past 15 years regarding the Guns N' Roses image.
#1206 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Travis Barker with Slash Video » 800 weeks ago
The song is OK, but the singer is awful. Slash is doing well.
#1207 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 800 weeks ago
i would be willing to wager that the orig band won't go on stage as GnR if Axl isnt there ... I could be wrong though
Yeah, it's unlikely, but imagine how magnificent it'd be if they played 14 Years with Izzy singin' different lyrics... The reunion pressure would be bigger on Axl than ever.
#1208 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 801 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:It's Axl's way or it doesn't happen.
True...but then the music business is full of predators. I don't doubt that there's a lot of folks waiting to screw over any band, so if you've got to Axl's position there's probably a certain security in having specific requirements.
Also I'm pretty sure most bands have someone that calls the shots. Can't see metallica doing a lot of stuff that lars was against, or megadeth doing anything dave didn't wanna do long term.
In some ways I view Axl's power bid for control of GNR as a way to obtain some security over an unstable situation. Axl must know that he has a temper that gets him into problem , and he knew the other partners in the business had serious substance abuse problems, and he knew that many in the industry will screw you as soon as look at you, and that sucess in music is often temporary anyway. Add those things together and it's a volatile situation. So as much as ethically and creatively him taking control is kinda a dick move as everyone in old GNR had a hand in generating that success, I can also totally also see how in his situation its also kinda a common sense and self preservation move. So these days he gets to be CEO of the GNR machine....and I see it more as about survival and limiting the unknown than about being a brat...but that's just my persepective.
Yeah, if there is a band, there is a leader, at least to some degree. As Axl explained it, if you have a car with your friends, then only one can have the wheel, or you'll get off the cliff. But. The problem is with GN'R that the driver drives the car off the cliff again and again, or he doesn't even wanna do anything with it - he's talking about huge plans, winning races etc, but the truth is the car is rusting in a parking lot.
Axl got this total leadership idea from Mick Jagger, but the difference is that Jagger is a down-to-earth accountant and Axl is a bipolar, bitter spoilt child. In this case it'd have been better if Steven Adler got the wheel.
#1209 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 801 weeks ago
like i said in the sixx:am thread, i don't really want casual fans or gnr to be chasing them down
i'd prefer gnr to be only capable of playing small venues than attract the fair-weather fans just in it for the hypebeast-popularity-contest, just there to listen to Nov Rain & SCOM
i want GnR to be playing setlists that have Coma instead of KOHD, Cornshucker instead of Brownstone, TWAT instead of L&LD.
i don't want them pandering to a majority that doesn't really give a shit about the majority of the music. casual fans spoil it.
i also don't really care about their marketability. in fact the lack of it makes me like them more.
i guess i am contrary..
but the more people shit on gnr & diss them & rip on axl, the deeper i get into liking it. it's almost like those casual fans dilute what is special to me about axl & gnr.tho having said that, gnr should be one of the biggest bands in the world (presently opposed to historically) & by & large axl has fucked that up.. we could have had it both ways but he wasted too much time. we coulda had the credibility & catalogue & popularity of zeppelin but he just wasted too much time.. TWAT/Better/TiL coulda crossed the divide in a similar way to SCOM/PC/Nov Rain but the chance of that was blown a long time before they even got an official release.
Good post and I'd agree with, but...
Axl calls the shots and as it seems, he's quite comfortable with playing an AFD rehash setlist with overplayed covers added. Nothing on the world is keeping him from playing a very different, fan-orientated setlist. Nothing. I'm bloody sure he could have left Uni a long ago, if he had more balls and didn't want it big.
Face it, he's not an underground artist. No underground artist spends 15 millions on an album. He's living in his own eccentric world with expensive studio bills, expensive background musicians, expensive parties, models, escorts, cars and paintings. The lack of marketing actions on his side are not caused by some 'underground artist' behaviour - au contraire, my friend, he wanted Universal to spend millions on the campign and when it wasn't as much as he expexted, he threw the hissy fit. Axl has needs of a huge rockstar, but his motivations are below a huge millionaire rockstar's spoilt child's will to do something.
#1210 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » DUFF MCKAGAN Interviewed At Italy's GODS OF METAL Festival » 801 weeks ago
I remember (according to Weiland), being near-reunion in 2006, Izzy, Matt & Steven were hanging with Axl, and Axl was being REALLY sweet on Slash.
Slash continued talking trash AND filing baseless lawsuits.
Axl's goodwill died as a result. So Slash fucked himself there. As soon as Axl let that wall down, Slash dicked it up and fucked the whole thing up - not Axl.
That was the one time I felt like Slash could be just as much of a stupid, egotistical, money-hungry prick as Axl.
I think your dates are not correct, and it makes all the conclusions wrong. Slash N' Duff DROPPED the lawsuit in late 2005, a few months after Slash visited Axl's house (during the period when the reunion rumours were getting stronger, from Halfin and Lars etc.).
The supposed(?) reunion collapsed in the spring of 2006, when Axl wanted to hijack all the other old guys' rights to the old stuff, in the same paper that had the reunion tour conditions. Slash N' Co were lucky, cuase one of their lawyers found that hidden clasure nobody knew earlier. So Slash wasn't the money-hungry prick who killed the reuinon. BTW that was the time when Axl started the housevisit-gate.
