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#1211 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 801 weeks ago
With the Best Buy deal and the sales of Chinese outside the US, I am quite certain the record company got their money back plus turned a profit.
Had they put that money in a bank for 15 years, they would have got more. So from a record company's point of view CD was a loss. I'd be the last to feel sorry for a huge label though.
#1212 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 801 weeks ago
Factually speaking, we really have no earthly idea of the exact financial details/cost breakdown between Axl and the label and the release of Chinese. All we know is that it was way overdue!
"May 1, 1998 amendment, see Hoffman Decl. Ex. A, Axl Rose agreed, among other things, to deliver that new studio LP (which was even then long overdue under the Recording Agreement)"
10 years later he delivered....:haha: I still get the biggest kick out of reading that gh lawsuit document.
Yeah, and it's nice to remind the revisionist of the fact that the album was terribly late even in 1998. Cause some theories surface time-to-time that it didn't take that long for Axl to deliver it and they set 2000 as the start of the project. Hell no.
BTW I really hope that Axl will start to release music more regularly. CD was a disappointment for me partly because it took that long and it was all we got. It's still among the best 5 past-1993 GN'R-related releases, but it's just not enough from Axl in 15 years. If he releases a CD quality album in every 3 years, I'll be satisfied. But with more time you expect better result.
#1213 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » DUFF MCKAGAN Interviewed At Italy's GODS OF METAL Festival » 802 weeks ago
Interesting theory, but it was Axl who didn't even go to the rehearsals, left the others alone working their asses off on the new songs and didn't give a shit, but lived his luxury life. Izzy did the same except the white limos, cause he preferred trucks. What kind of working ethic you have when you don't even play guitar for 4 months?
The truth is that Slash, Duff and Steven always worked hard in GN'R, even in their worst junkie times (altohugh Steven got to a point when it really affected his playing) - while the others didn't like to work hard. I understand Izzy, cause he lost his motivation, but Axl has always been a lazy primadonna.
#1214 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 802 weeks ago
Yeah, you're right, Russ. If there is no huge demand for your product, then position it as exclusive and 'snobbish'. If a little less people can get access to it than how many wants to, it's better for you (and you can earn more). Much better marketing than playing half empty arenas with free ticket giveaways.
#1215 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » COREY TAYLOR: "I Guess It Just Wasn't Working Working For SLASH" » 802 weeks ago
Isn't Liam Gallagher from British band Oasis free now?
His raw aggressive rock and roll attack with the guys in VR would be amazing
To be honest, I'd kill to hear Slash play Cigarettes and Alcohol.
Yeah, he'd be a great choice music wise, although they'd be in the lead singer disaster situation again. However I think Slash would need to accept that there is no quality frontman on Earth without insanity or primadonna hissy fits. You either deal with it or choose the peaceful Second Division.
#1216 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » COREY TAYLOR: "I Guess It Just Wasn't Working Working For SLASH" » 802 weeks ago
I think you understand it. You have no proof except your taste that CD was a failure. A disappointment.
I listed the proofs.
Once you have sold-out stadiums, once you have your songs played the breaks of sporting events, once you sell zillions of albums, once you define your brand as the biggest on the world, then it is a failure and clearly shows the quality of your product if NONE of these happen with your new stuff.
Truth is the truth hurts.
#1217 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » COREY TAYLOR: "I Guess It Just Wasn't Working Working For SLASH" » 802 weeks ago
I'm sorry, but Guns N' Roses have never been an underground band. It was for like 2 years, but they all wanted to be stars, badly. 'Guns N' Roses' is a major brand. They are not sell-outs, they are not a fabricated label band, but a huge, huge band, one of the biggests ever. And with such a huge brand, success is the benchmark. If your new songs are not played in sport stadiums, if you can't sell out a place you used to, if radios don't play your songs, then yes, you failed. Time to move on and try something new.
#1218 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 802 weeks ago
I think Axl just wanted some mutual respect from Azoff. I think striking the touring deal was him trying to show solidarity with Azoff for future business.
He's not stupid. Being on a guy like Azoff's good side is a good thing.
After this ordeal, even Axl probably found out how much power a guy like Irving holds.
Agree. I'd add that Axl likes to give bones to the fans. Not real bones, but the possibility of a bone. This is another 'hold on' message to the (US) fan base. Without any evidence (promise, lie or guarantee) of happening in the next months or years.
#1219 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guitarist DJ ASHBA: I Have No Reason To Kiss Axl Rose's Ass » 802 weeks ago
I'll gut the insults from Madagas' statement and provide you with the addition to the topic that you ignored.
Overstating the point. Axl doesn't constantly do anything. I can't remember the last time I heard him speak.....much less get in to enough specifics as to define what he considers "a band"....
You've just made some stuff up and attributed to him then criticized that picture you painted of him
In reality your statement added nothing to the topic.
Madagas' simply pointed that out. We're not kids I think we can all weather a few personal jabs, especially where they are justified.
I can't believe that you don't understand it.
Constantly = every time Axl talks about the 'band' theme.
DJ: Axl decides. Axl: we, Guns N' Roses decide. I see there is some contradiction. A lot. So I was very ontopic.
I made my point.
Was it hard to understand?
I hope the answer is no.
meh...I was just a bit cranky this morning...jabbing at Mikka. Didn't mean to insult. He's a good guy. We like to go at it from time to time.
#1220 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guitarist DJ ASHBA: I Have No Reason To Kiss Axl Rose's Ass » 802 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Axlin08 wrote:GOOD BOY! I knew he had it in him.
That's how you do it. That's all I was asking.
Agree. The sum of it is all what we expected.
Funny that while Axl is constatly referring to it as a 'band' and how the 'band decides', DJ clearly says that it's all up to Axl. Nobody's shocked though.
Overstating your point as usual. Axl doesn't "constantly" do anything. I can't remember the last time I heard him speak.....much less get in to enough specifics as to define what he considers "a band"....always looking at the negative....you are just as uninspired as the thing you complain about all the time.
If you don't have anything to add to the topic, then please don't sink to the level of personal insults!
