Yea but Obama was never able to prove to us that he didn't hate America. Trump on the other hand wants to make America great again, it even say so on his hat.

You didn't know? As liberals we all want handouts and like to mooch off everybody else. My dipshit cousin told me the same thing. It's probably how I was raised he said.

I don't know if I said this here or not, but I think that's the main difference between camps. Republicans often seem to like the strong man/tough guy talk. I see that as a weakness and prefer a more pragmatic approach to things.

To me an "Alpha male" in most instances is somebody who is insecure and is hiding their flaws/lack of knowledge behind tough guy talk. I know this would seem like the exact opposite to somebody who admires that type of approach.

Yea "Whacky" theories put for by all of the intelligence communities, a dozen women who claim to have been groped by this man, unending lawsuits, liens placed by contractors he's fucked over, statements that have actually come out of his mouth...and so on. Yea, so "whacky. "

You do realize that in just one snippet of this press conference the President Elect said Russia probably hacked us, then said being on good terms with Putin is considered an "Asset". Then turned around and said he would be much tougher on Putin than Hillary ever could be.

His conflicts of interests, his cabinet picks, his juvenile infatuation with twitter wars rather than intelligence briefings....it goes on and on. Those are facts.