Oh yea, I have seen that, hence not bothered posting on any... I don't know you but I;ve read a bit, if you're an asshole you're at least a funny self-aware asshole, and not convinced Slash is sending you messages about our reptilian overlords via the   smiley in Morse code...

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RIGHT?!

No seriously I hear ya, there's some LOONZ out there, only thing that drew me in here was relative lack of 'em.

Final analysis, we have no RIGHT to expect anything from GNR, any member current or ex, least of all Axl.

Answer me this - who likes Axl Rose because he gives a fuck, cares what people say about him, plays it safe, and commission sfocus groups on who can represent him?

No?

Thought not!

So what if Beta's not always done things the PR approved sanitised safe way - now, I KNOW I am in danger of defending this lady JUST because she's being criticised, that's life, that's me and probably a lot of us Gnr fans (ie contrary BASTARDS! ) but hey, she stuck her neck out, she didn't shy away and play the easy populist card, one thing's for sure she's probably got temperamental similarities to the man himself Mr rose.

like I said - easy now to go all pro-Mrs L vs. in the blue corner anti etc etc , it;s not that clear, unless you know stuff, cuz I know hands up I don't know jack about what Axl's life possibly can be like, any more tha  he could about you and me, don't know what Mrs L means to him, what she is and isn't really doing?

I let myself get drawn into this against MY better judgement - maybe that's something to consider too. Peace out dudes, won't check this thread again, right and wrong aside it;s making me feel wrong. Thanks for the lesson to all! 

Thx Olorin!

Being nooby round here, good to hear I;m not pissing everyone off...

Only one thing I gotta say before I hit the sack:

Yeah, but to be fair, if she started mentioning being like family people would rip her left right and centre for being deranged, all that very-ugly stuff about his ffs WILL, and all the trash I;ve read on Other Forums.

I mean it;s one thing to be LIKE s ubstitute mom, another thing to call yourself that to the... unshaven internet hordes, many of whom have deep and personal attachments and stuff to axl & all concepts of GnR old & new.

I can't see any way she could say that kind of thing and not come off as an utter wackjob!

How we feel about people and what we can say to other people, esp a hostile press and often hostile "fans" are two completely different things.

She's good enough for Mr Rose, so she's good enough for me, your opinion may vary and wouldn't life be dull if we all thought alike?

Well as I said this is all a bit tacky imo but, if that was your mom, which it seems like she's kind of become a surrogate mom/elder sister whatever, and nothing wrong with that, how would your mom react if she kept seeing you attacked in the most outrageous and distorted ways?

Mine would be far more likely to attack right back, she wouldn't so much send shivers down your spine as rip it out and feed it to you (and I mean hypothetocal GnR hater online, not you personally ) anyway it's a much more honest and from-the-heart reaction, and blessedly free of spin and buttkissing to the fans.

I have little interest to be honest, but I;ve been reading this thread, so yeah... I personally presume that the guy (axl) who didn't cave to band member's pressures in the old GnR, to the pressures of addictions to hardcore stuff like heroin that caught up so many contemporaries in their heyday, to label pressures recently or to fan pressures EVER (not even to go onstage in a timely manner/at all lol!) isn't... exactly an easy person to get "under the thumb."

I'm smelling misogyny - not @ you, Coppereye, just the whole anti-Mrs L thing I've read elsewhere from time to time. Reeks a tiny bit of the notion that we want our rock stars to live tragic lives, and god forbid they might find contentment and some vestige of a family, and stability -_ rocker's wives are notoriously unpopular with the fans after all.

If she was an elder male manager figure, one with a track record as some kind of rock royalty maybe, I doubt she'd be anything like as demonised, I also suspect her ethnicity (with its implications for many in the US as second-class citizen etc) and her initial role in his life as a nanny is what's riling a lot of people up - the servants are getting uppity, etc etc nauseating BS.

just my rant - I realise I;ve now become part of the problem so to speak discussing the private lives of private individuals, but hey the internet'll do that to ya every time. 

At the end of the day, if she's making Axl's life better i bless her for it, the same as I would if he was my next-door neighbour or some random guy who collects my trash, we all have a right to find people we care about and on the slim off-chance he'd have been more unhappy day in and day out of his one and only life without her, but we'd have had - oooh, an album or two extra, meh - that's not a trade anyone should consider worthwhile.

This isn't like some defence, just my feelings, not knowing any of the people involved etc etc, I;m just wishing them all well. there's more important things in life than buying some new CD.

(annnndddd.... 'pologies for all the typos, finished working an all-nighter had a few beers! )