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#1311 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 821 weeks ago
Bono wrote:Also in my opinion I think an Axl Rose book would be absolute garbage. It would be such a warped perspective on things.
I don't think Axl is able to see things the way they are. I think he sees things exactly how he wants to, to keep peace in his own self contained universe and not upset the balance of anything by being accountable for anything.
For me that's why I'd hope he'd publish it though, as what I find facinating about this kind of situation is everyone has a unique perspective.
I mean what happened to those GNR kiddies was an amazing life changing experience, and I like the idea of reading about the same events from Slash, Duff, Steven, and Axl's perspective....all eye witness acounts...all with varying problems acounting for the speaker...(IE: Slash was fucked on drugs most of the time, while Axl is very emotional, Duff can't even remember...Adler can't really look past being thrown from the band...like you'd have to account for their personality when reading it - but that's why it's interesting).
Another thing is I find axl's way of speaking quite interesting. It's also something I enjoy in his songs. His choice of words is quite precise. He's way of looking at emotional situations.
I'd read it because I want to hear from him what exactly went down when they (Duff, Slash, etc) signed the name over to him. I do believe him on this point more than the others because he wasn't on booze or drugs. I do find his syntax kind of interesting as he does have a tendency to go on and ramble. That is where an editor would help the most. Too bad Izzy has no interest in writing a book at all because I think he would provide insight into Axl and chronicle how fucked up the rest of the band was while he was trying to get sober.
I do think we would get insight into his childhood which seems to be one of the roots of his problems to this day. As long as the book isn't too long I'd read it.
#1312 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 821 weeks ago
It is despicable and the only people praising it are the ones who didn't like Axl to begin with. Had this been Slash instead, his haters would be acting the same way. It's kind of sad that people are so petty.
You don't see anyone here actually praising this. Wanting to read this stuff if it leaks is one thing, but I don't think anyone here supports the blackmail/extortion angle here at all and the drama that has gone with it.
I could see Doc being the mole but doesn't some of this stuff predate him? Stuff from prior to his arrival is on there but a whole bunch of these documents could be bs. Anyway Doc has a sketchy past too (see Motley Crue).
#1313 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 821 weeks ago
darknemus wrote:Not sure when the hack was done (or over how many days / weeks) - I know MSL received at least the initial bulk of his info on January 20th - and it had stuff as recent as January 18th (two days prior) in it.
If this stuff is true, I can't help but chuckle thinking of the chaos in Axl's mansion right now. Someone should make a Hitler meltdown video of this situation.
Will pianos be going out the window? Or maybe the stopping of several remote controls?:haha:
BTW, thanks for the info darknemus.
#1314 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 821 weeks ago
To clarify, tejastech08 - I SPECULATED that it came from multiple accounts. The only ones I know of directly that were compromised is Beta's and a me.com account - however - I do not know the total scope / extent of the hack / leak - so it is entirely possible there were more accounts compromised.
Do you have any idea when her email (and others) were allegedly hacked into? I'd buy into the Azoff thing if only because Axl filed a lawsuit against him last year?
And yes, Beta should really have had a secondary email address.
#1315 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 821 weeks ago
slashsfro wrote:tejastech08 wrote:If you have high capacity email, you can easily accumulate a shitload of emails over the years. All a hacker would need to do is search for keywords and they would find a treasure trove. Remember that Beta is Axl's adopted mom, so the "letters to family" thing is very relevant in this case.
Which leads to another question? Why would she keep a 7 year old email in her account? Couldn't she just copy it off onto a memory stick/storage device and delete it afterwards? Sounds kinda fishy why she would just leave that stuff in the account after reading and responding to it.
Do you have Gmail or something similar? If you have a high enough capacity, there is no reason to delete it. I started using Gmail back in August 2005 and haven't deleted anything that wasn't spam.
Yeah, I got gmail, yahoo and hotmail accounts. They almost all never run out of space. I just find this entire spectacle kinda fascinating in a train wreck style of fashion. I guess with this band the more ridiculous something sounds the more likely it will be true. I agree with nugafed or whoever said it this is like a soap opera for men. This is almost as good as the soap opera I had to sit through called the Titans 2010 second half.
#1316 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 821 weeks ago
ppp wrote:Doesn't matter if it was from Beta's. In fact, that makes it more odd. I'd think if someone were to hack into Beta's email right now, they'd find letters to family, bills, spam, etc like you'd find on anyone's. Not 3-7 year old emails containing Axl's thoughts on everything we ever wanted to know and stuff that could destroy the band. It's like a bad fan fiction story.
If you have high capacity email, you can easily accumulate a shitload of emails over the years. All a hacker would need to do is search for keywords and they would find a treasure trove. Remember that Beta is Axl's adopted mom, so the "letters to family" thing is very relevant in this case.
Which leads to another question? Why would she keep a 7 year old email in her account? Couldn't she just copy it off onto a memory stick/storage device and delete it afterwards? Sounds kinda fishy why she would just leave that stuff in the account after reading and responding to it.
#1317 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 821 weeks ago
Random thoughts about this:
Beta still uses aol email? That was so 90s. Item #52 December 2006 letter threatening to sue Zakk Wylde. What is that about? Anybody want to guess about that.
Anyway, I'm not really shocked that Axl is low on funds. Didn't Mick Wall say he was running low on money 3 years ago. I know Wall is a suspect source but still he said this when CD was first released. I don't get guys are defending Axl. He is always will be the root of GNR problems with his personality. I wish he would just hire someone competent to deal with his affairs. It doesn't look like the Malibu Mafia is helping him. I find it sad that when a long time band member like Dizzy has to beg for an update (item 85 Aug 2009) from Beta and can't communicate with Axl himself.
This does seem like fan fiction though.
#1318 Re: Guns N' Roses » *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI? » 821 weeks ago
In this ridiculous society we live in, you put Axl in front of a billion people who haven't seen him for 15 years and he will be the laughing stock of the Super Bowl even if he gives a good vocal performance. The people who actually have bothered paying attention already know what he looks like these days, but there are millions upon millions that don't even have a clue. It's not a blip on their radar. But if he is shoved down their throat, you can bet your ass the conversation will quickly turn from "great musical performance" to "wow, he really let himself go over the years." That's the society we live in. So I'm not sure how exactly this would be a dignified situation for him.
Gotta disagree with you on this one my friend. If he shows up with Slash and they put together an OK performance (no glaring errors or out of breath vocal work) he'll get praised like hell. Yeah, a few assholes might bitch about his looks. But this is Axl and Slash back together again. Besides Americans love second acts. Look how much positive press the 1996 Van Halen reunion with Roth garnered (before Eddie pissed it away).
It's actually a pretty good story. Shit, I almost forgot the Steven Adler angle too. There's a lot of stuff there that could generate positive press.
#1319 Re: Guns N' Roses » *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI? » 821 weeks ago
Total ownage, the truth has been spoken. Give us back the biggest band in the world... U2, Bon Jovi, Def Leopard, Motley Crue, Metallica... Ger ready to play 2nd fiddle again if and when Axl decides to go all in with the old band. How bad ass would it be if each member rose up from under the stage ala Slash with the smoke and shit from the super bowl. BEP sucked, but loved how the brought Slash in and yes, he is still badass. Still unsure about them playing with it being so cold out.
Next year's Super Bowl will be played in Indinapolis in a domed indoor stadium. The one after that will be played in NY. That one is outdoors.
The fan in me wants them to play a longer set than the 15 minutes or so that they usually give the Super Bowl halftime gig. Although I would find it ironic that they would play a reunion gig in Indinapolis of all places.
#1320 Re: Guns N' Roses » *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI? » 821 weeks ago
I'd rather see the current line up to be honest instead of the old crew getting together with the hatred there n all.
I'd always imagine them doing a huge festival if the old group wanted to do a one off. It just made more sense. The Super Bowl halftime show is about publicity and pushing your brand.
The New GNR brand in the US is not very popular. Most still associate GNR (casual music fans) as the classic AFD lineup.
If there is zero intention of burying the hatchet between Axl and Slash (and that is what we are talking about here), they should just continue what they are currently doing now anyway. Less stress involved for all participants. Axl releases music every several years and Slash works with a whole bunch of people and does VR.
