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#1321 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 495 weeks ago
With everything that's been posted about him, and you don't have a problem with any of it, there's no point continuing anything. That's all that needs to be said really.
Yup.
You either accept reality, or you do not. Bannon is a racist and anti Semite, shown by his work at Breitbart alone.
Trump is also packing his cabinet with lobbyists. I guess they'll deny that too.
#1322 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 495 weeks ago
On the job training for the Executive branch. Sounds like reality is setting in for the KKK endorsed conman...lucky for him Obama will show Trump how to do his job before he leaves. 
Donald Trump reportedly 'surprised at the scope' of the president's duties
Donald Trump will be getting more help from the White House during the next several months than incoming presidents typically receive, The Wall Street Journal reports.
People with knowledge of Trump's meeting on Thursday with President Obama told the Journal Obama realized that Trump, who has no experience in government or the military, will need more guidance, and he will spend more time with him than previously expected. As Obama explained the duties that come along with running the country, "Trump seemed surprised by the scope," the Journal reports, and Trump's aides were also "unaware that the entire presidential staff working in the West Wing had to be replaced at the end of Mr. Obama's term."
Trump's transition team is not where it needs to be, people familiar with the process told WSJ. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) was supposed to lead the team, but he was replaced Friday by Mike Pence, the vice president-elect, following the conviction of Christie's onetime allies in the Bridgegate scandal. The team has been late in making announcements and decisions because of this, but also because Trump's own advisers were shocked he won on Tuesday and have been scrambling, a senior aide told WSJ. The communications director for the transition team declined to comment to the Journal. Catherine Garcia
#1323 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 495 weeks ago
Quotes from Trump's new chief strategist
President-elect Donald Trump's announcement of "alt-right" news executive Stephen Bannon as White House chief strategist has prompted plenty of backlash.
It's not just liberals who don't like the former chairman of Breitbart News -- even conservative commentator Glenn Beck called Bannon a "nightmare" and a "terrifying man."
We took a look at some of the things Bannon, who is celebrated by the white nationalist movement, has said over the years. Plenty of them are offensive, so consider this a warning.
On why liberals hate conservative women like Anne Coulter and Michele Bachmann
" [T]hese women cut to the heart of the progressive narrative. That’s why there are some unintended consequences of the women’s liberation movement. That, in fact, the women that would lead this country would be pro-family, they would have husbands, they would love their children. They wouldn’t be a bunch of dykes that came from the Seven Sisters schools up in New England." -- 2011 radio interview with Political Vindication Radio
On sending his girls to an elite academy in Los Angeles
He "didn't want the girls going to school with Jews ... He said he doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiney brats.'" -- The Guardian, from his wife in court documents filed in 2007. Bannon has denied saying it.
On what keeps him going
"Fear is a good thing. Fear is going to lead you to take action." -- Richmond-Times Dispatch
On furthering Tea Party goals
"I’m a Leninist ... Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment." -- The Daily Beast
On Breitbart News
"We're the platform for the alt-right." --Mother Jones
"We call ourselves 'the Fight Club.' You don’t come to us for warm and fuzzy." -- The Washington Post
“We think of ourselves as virulently anti-establishment, particularly ‘anti-’ the permanent political class. We say Paul Ryan was grown in a petri dish at the Heritage Foundation." -- The Washington Post
"We hire people who are freaks" and "They don’t have social lives."-- The Washington Post
On the Occupy Movement
"After making the Occupy movie, when you finish watching the film, you want to take a hot shower ... You want to go home and shower because you’ve just spent an hour and fifteen minutes with the greasiest, dirtiest people you will ever see." -- The Atlantic
On his favorite group of Republicans, the GOP
"What we need to do is bitch-slap the Republican Party." -- The Atlantic
"Leadership are all c*nts" and "We should just go buck wild." -- The Daily Beast, from an email exchange.
On charges of anti-Semitism from former Breitbart editor-at-large Ben Shapiro
"Are there anti-Semitic people involved in the alt-right? Absolutely. Are there racist people involved in the alt-right? Absolutely. But I don't believe that the movement overall is anti-Semitic." -- Mother Jones. Shapiro quit Breitbart News after Trump's then campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, allegedly assaulted Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields. He accused Bannon of turning Breitbart "into Trump’s personal Pravda."
http://mashable.com/2016/11/14/steve-bannon-quotes.amp
Breitbart News’ Worst Headlines
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has hired Breitbart News executive chairman Stephen Bannon as his new campaign chief executive.
Media Matters looks back at the some of Breitbart News’ most outrageous and over-the-top headlines during Bannon’s tenure:
#1324 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 495 weeks ago
Trump faces backlash over appointing Bannon as a top aide, a choice critics say will empower white nationalists
#1325 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Their was a story awhile back that Axl's hated Trump for years so it shouldn't be a surprise and apart from that he's suggested he leaned democrat a few times over the years.
Axl said he would vote Obama in the last election. Although he also said he rarely votes since California is a sea of blue.
#1326 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
That is incorrect.. Fannie Mae was VERY much involved.... They helped push up demand for housing in the low end of the market making subprime loans more attractive to other institutions as housing prices rice steadily. They bought 25% of the 272.81 billion in subprime mortgage back securities in 2006, 35.3% in 2005 and 44% in 2004. They were a big player..
You started off talking about the community reinvestment act. I addressed that. You then answered me with Fannie Mae-which isn't the same thing. However there is no connection between the two. In addition it's private lenders who gave out the bulk of subprime loans. The private lenders were not beholden to any government regulation or oversight. These private mortgage lenders were propped up with hedge fund money in most cases. As soon as these loans were issued, they were sold off to be repackaged by Wall Street. Once they were repackaged into securities, the agencies gave them AAA ratings (to me one of the biggest offenses.) Those crappy security bundles were then sold to retirement pensions around the country and world. After a certain point the same people selling them (Goldman Sachs for instance) began to short them. All of this is just a segment of what was going on with Wall Street preceding the crash.
It's just one more cheap lie hustled from the right, so everybody would blame "poor people" for the crash instead of Wall Street. How anybody could fall for something so ridiculous and transparent is beyond me. Reminds me of my asshole cousin who said the same thing during the crash. Guess he couldn't take responsibility for the 8 homes and one condo he lost in south Florida. Of course he blamed it on everybody but himself. Can't say I felt sorry for him...
You friend is wrong. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were involved and were part of the game but were not the sole reason.
Again, do you think Dodd/Frank is about oversight for Fannie Mae? Or Wall Street? Hello???
If you aren't aware, the Republicans want to get rid of that. Lifting regulations on Wall Street once again so they can be free to partake in more fuckery, risky loans, CDOs and OTC derivatives. It will probably be one of the first things (in theory) that Trump does. Give Wall Street free range to run riot.
#1327 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:If somebody kills him (a distinct possibility given the tension, which I believe will continue the entire time he's in office) then we'd be left with high octane homophobic Pence and the creepiest cabinet ever, chock full of Alt right conspiracy theory nutjobs, lobbyists and Trump sycophants.
Just a question for you SLC.
Supreme Court aside, is their not a bit of you that wants him to follow through and just go overboard for 4 years destroying the GOP for a generation at least?
A close friend of mine and I watched the GOP debates and loved every minute of it. So yes there is that part of me that would enjoy it, and I do believe it's going to happen. But for the sake of my country I hope we don't burn everything to the ground in the process.
Sam Harris had a great analogy on his podcast the other night. He said if you were in a plane and the pilot suddenly died, you would hope that the person now landing the plane (with zero experience) would do so successfully. It would all be in the passengers best interest to do so.
There are so many fucking variables with this guy it is almost impossible to know what is going to happen. Will the reality of his job paired with his constant need for the public's adoration create a centrist who finds honest to goodness solutions? Or will the reality of this job expose an emperor with no clothes, no true ideology and allow the GOP to treat him like a puppet to push through their agendas? We're not going to know until we get rolling.
And just because Trump won, doesn't mean the fractured Republican party is healed now. There are various fractions who have completely different visions for the party moving forward. At some point he's going to tangle with somebody. Also this has been an obstructionist party for the last 8 years, not a governing party. I'm very curious to see how a splintered group decides to actually do their job for once. So yea, there certainly is some schadenfreude potential watching this...but I also hope the plane is landed safely on the runway.
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#1329 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Please watch then comment, of course it is Fox so I assume you may just dismiss the whole fucking segment.
As I said, this has absolutely nothing to do with the CRA which originated in the 70's. Your original claim.
This also has nothing to do with hedge funds setting up mortgage companies that focused on sub primes, then reselling to be repackaged by Wall Street and then bet against by the same people selling them. None of that had anything to do with Fannie Mae. None.
I really won't be shocked if he resigns in a year or two. But that makes things even scarier. Giving establishment repubs that much power will be devastating. We need Trump to keep his promise and stop Paul Ryan from obliterating Medicare, for example. We need that infrastructure deal; Nancy Pelosi just said she was excited to work with him on it, while McConnell and Ryan said it wasn't a priority. We really need for Trump to stand up against his party.
My original thoughts were that he wouldn't make it the full first term. However his ego alone would NEVER allow him to resign. No way, no how.
I could easily see him doing something stupid and getting impeached, but that would require Congress to act. Good luck with that.
If somebody kills him (a distinct possibility given the tension, which I believe will continue the entire time he's in office) then we'd be left with high octane homophobic Pence and the creepiest cabinet ever, chock full of Alt right conspiracy theory nutjobs, lobbyists and Trump sycophants.
One thing is clear to me though, the guy never expected to get this job. I don't think he ever thought he'd win the GOP nomination, much less the General. He's now going to feel the weight of the world on his shoulders, and I highly doubt he was ready for this. Perhaps it will humble him a bit.
#1330 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
The irony of that meme, James, is that Trump now wants to basically keep Obamacare. See he can't just keep the good parts, like preexisting conditions, without being able to pay for it without the federal mandate: making everyone purchase healthcare or be fined. Or else everyone would only get healthcare when they really needed it. He can say repeal and replace all he wants, but those two things ARE Obamacare.
Trump is going to do what Trump always does. He'll tweak Obamacare, then stamp his name on it (rebranding) and call it a success.
"20 million have health insurance because of ME. Children can stay on their parent's plan until they are 26 because of ME. Insurance companies can no longer deny you for pre-existing conditions because of ME."
Wait and see.



