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#1331 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Since its starting bubble out that Russia did in fact work with the Trump campaign to get him elected, if it comes out that they knew about the hacks, if they were connected with wikileaks in anyway, that disqualifies him and the delegates should vote against Trump. That's not even counting the FBIs involvement. I'm now waiting to see how this plays out in the next few weeks...
Information about his connection is just starting to trickle out. There doesn't seem to be much yet, but I'm guessing more is on the way. There were ties to Russia for sure though.
This entire election...something fishy with Russia. I have no idea of what, but there sure are a lot of things that don't seem right: wiki leaks, Russian ties, refusal to release his tax returns, the FBI announcement. I hope somebody can connect the dots eventually and spill the beans.
Trump has a court date coming up for his scam real estate school too. Class act I tell you, class act.
#1332 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:If you feel Bush caused the financial collapse of 2008 you are a fucking idiot. Bush's admin were the only cock suckers around trying to fix the housing crisis while Dems screemed "EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO A HOME!"
Getting a little too big for your britches here.
The policies leading to the financial crisis/housing crisis first started in the late 70's but in the mid 90's were put into high gear and by the time the early 2000's the subprime lending market was at an all time high. Bush didn't cause any of that. When his admin noticed the trends prior to the collapse they were basically told to shut the fuck up
This is one lie I hate more than anything (after Iraq lies)
The subprime mess had nothing to do with the community reinvestment act. The subprime loans were handed out like candy, financed by Wall Street. They had nothing to do with the government. Do you think Dodd-Frank was created to oversee some government policy that originated in the 70's? The entire point was to place regulations on these hedge funds and "mortgage companies" so they wouldn't do that shit again and crash the economy.
Bush and his Republican congress didn't do anything either. The notion that "they tried to stop" this buying frenzy is laughable. Name one piece of legislation that they put forth in regards to this? A: Nothing.
#1333 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Most of you will never be happy with Trump.
This is much different than the right/left tribal schism that goes round n' round.
Most people tend to believe caricatures of their opponent-some are much more guilty of this than others. Conservatives believed all kinds of nutty things about Obama: He was a socialist, hated America, had terrorist ties, had a gay lover, was born in Kenya, was a secret Muslim and so on. But none of this was born from anything Obama actually said or did. It was all non-sense spun from half truths, dark corners of the web, videos purposely edited and shown out of context etc.
But you're right, I'll never be happy with Trump.
People hate Trump not because of what we've been told about him by liberal websites, but by what comes out of his mouth. He gives endless reasons for people to find him repugnant, stupid and dangerous. They've all been pointed out here before. So yes for me, I will not give this man a chance. He embodies the worst parts of humanity on numerous levels and is clearly not qualified to be POTUS. Not even remotely close.
I understand people want to destroy the status quo, I get it. But anybody who thinks this is a good idea is either a complete imbecile, is morally bankrupt or both.
#1334 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Trump has already removed his "ban all muslims" promise from his webpage. He's also not going after Hillary Clinton with a "special prosecutor" now.
Guess those two are off the list already...:haha:
How about that wall? Is he itemizing a bill for Mexico yet you think?
#1335 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
I addressed the bullshit fear mongers saying the economy was going to immediately tank by looking at futures as though they have any idea how the economy works.
No, as usual you mischaracterized what posters said and then attacked your false premise.
#1336 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Fuck yes I'm serious. The Dow was indeed at an all time high despite repeated warnings of how the economy was going to immediately crumble after Trump won. The point was all this fear mongering that people are doing is a bunch of bullshit. The world isn't going to end. Gays aren't going to be shot randomly on the street. Women don't need to expose their pussies for the grabbing on command. It's all a bunch of bullshit used to keep the weak minded in check.
The DOW popped up a couple hundred after people bought back in. But it was already at all time highs well before this. Something you said was irrelevant to the sitting POTUS (but now you seem to attribute to Trump before he's even sworn in.) The futures the night before most certainly crashed on the prospect of a Trump presidency. Wall Street has voiced its concerns over Trump in the weeks preceding the election as well, quite a few times. You may choose to ignore this, or be hyperbolic about it, but it's still true.
Americans have legitimate concerns about a know-nothing erratic narcissist with zero public service or governing experience who was endorsed solely by the KKK. People who aren't too bright champion this man, pound their chests and love the tough guy talk. They think it's some sort of game. It's not. You may caricaturize these concerns and blow it off, but it doesn't take away from the reality of true destruction this idiot can do.
#1337 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Down reaches all time high.
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Under Obama...
#1338 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Trump will be just fine.
What do you base this on? His calm demeanor and his sound fiscal decisions over the years?
Or the restraint and composure he exhibits when others may disagree with him?
Or perhaps his years of experience in government?
#1339 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
You and that frog...
#1340 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
The DNC is in shambles. Yea, I'm enjoying this.
Everything is in shambles today, and the GOP is not excluded. In fact they may be worse off for this than the Dems. They now have to lead, as one party, and I can guarantee you that shit ain't happening. Not with Bannon in Trump's ear. The Breitbart constituency has scores to settle inside the GOP, and this is their big chance.
Yea they'll be a honeymoon period, but it's going to get ugly alright.
