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#1341 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 343 weeks ago
I really think Syria is going to end Trump's presidency
Why? I’ve thought about this topic a lot over the past week. I don’t understand how this isn’t the right move. ISIS is defeated. They don’t hold any territory or have any influence. As Assad sent his Army to defend the Kurds against Turkish aggression, and the Turks seem interested if not in controlling the territory, disarming it, ISIS isn’t going to be gaining a stronghold there. We’re deploying troops to Iraq that can respond if ISIS were to try to regroup around Mosul.
The goal of defeating ISIS is accomplished. We’ve already turned Iraq back over to its government, and regime change was never policy in Syria.
This begs the question of should Turkey be in NATO and should we house 50 nukes there. Fair questions, but it’s Trump who’s been leaning in that direction, not Democrats. Democrats were against strikes and action in Syria. Ending our active engagements there isn’t something they can be upset about. And Trump campaigned on quick strikes and avoiding occupations. The whole “Don’t tell them what we’re gonna do before we do it” logic that was mocked by Clinton supporters.
Russia cements its foothold in Syria. Ok? Are we trying to start an armed conflict with Russia or aren’t we? I know more about force projection than most. Our fleets in the Mediterranean and Arab peninsula combined with bases in the Persian Gulf are ample deterrence for fuckery in the region. But Russia being allied with Assad is the status quo, so what’s changing here?
At what point were we going to leave. I understand the optics of “abandoning” the Kurds, but I’ll ask again, when was the right time to go? Is it going to be the policy of the US to support the creation of Kurdistan? And how much money and troops are we spending to achieve this?
Instead of doing Iraq or Korea 2.0, we got out after ISIS was handled. I don’t support a humanitarian mission to imprison thousands of nationless jihadis.
I’m still trying to figure out who’s offended by this politically. Democrats didn’t want a war, and Republicans wanted to slaughter ISIS. The Neo-con foreign policy agenda finally died with Bolton.
#1342 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 343 weeks ago
Everyone is saying Warren lost. MSNBC hammered her pretty good. I mean, Warren is a fraud. No way around it.
Yea, her pregnancy story is bullshit and it's sad to see CNN and others bend over backwards to try to make it not an outright lie based on the actual evidence and her past interviews. This is someone who claimed to be Native American, listed herself as such on her Texas Bar and was celebrated at Harvard for being so, but we're supposed to believe none of that factored into her career. It just makes it that much harder to support outrage at Trump for being misleading about shit like crowd size or amount of wall built, when people turn a blind eye to this. To say nothing of her repeated refusal to acknowledge her health care plan will significantly raise taxes on the middle class (and how having medicare for all would close hundreds if not thousands of hospitals across the country).
I liked Gabbard and Klobuchar, but I don't think there's any chance of them winning the primary. Sanders was endorsed by the Squad today, so we'll see if that gives him a bump as it looks like Warren is stealing his thunder. Castro, Harris and Booker need to just bow out now. O'Rourke is a bigger fraud than any of them. I like Buttigieg, and Yang, but they have virtually no chance of getting a win in any early state.
#1343 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 343 weeks ago
I thought Biden looked the best all things considered, but Fox thinks Warren won the debate and CNN says she lost it, so who knows. I just know a Warren candidacy gets Trump re-elected.
#1344 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 343 weeks ago
Wow. That's amazing.
Does he not realize by saying that it's going to get worse?
It's not real
#1345 Re: Guns N' Roses » disappointed in axl and fernando » 344 weeks ago
i agree with bucket. axl should play chinese songs and BURY the AFD NOSTALGIA act
honest question. have you seen gn'r play live?
#1346 Re: Guns N' Roses » The "Better" video treatment MSL possesses has leaked. » 344 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:otto wrote:I think it's not a video and just a doc with the concept.
Fair enough. I was thinking of this video:
Is the video fan made?
No, it was the official video. It was just never released
#1347 Re: Guns N' Roses » The "Better" video treatment MSL possesses has leaked. » 344 weeks ago
The video was supposed to be claymation/animated btw.
Is that why there's the red guy in the video that was made, but never released? I remember Fernando blaming Lars, and Lars eventually publicly commenting "I have no idea what they're talking about".
#1348 Re: Guns N' Roses » The "Better" video treatment MSL possesses has leaked. » 344 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Is this different than the actual video that leaked several years ago? I have it if anyone is interested
I think it's not a video and just a doc with the concept.
Fair enough. I was thinking of this video:
#1349 Re: Guns N' Roses » The "Better" video treatment MSL possesses has leaked. » 344 weeks ago
Is this different than the actual video that leaked several years ago? I have it if anyone is interested
#1350 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 344 weeks ago
He'll be gone by Thanksgiving.
Bye-bye
I'll take that bet. I'll give you 5-1 odds.
