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#1351 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

I was always taught that it's best to under promise and over deliver.

That MSL post was pretty bloody underwhelming!!!  (not that I'm surprised).  I hope he has a lot more "spice" in his bag of tricks because that didn't even give me a half mongrel.

#1352 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

Wasn't there rumours (that were denied by Beta) a couple of years ago about Tommy getting angry about stuff and throwing his bass at the door coz Axl was going onstage late etc etc.

#1353 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

Hardly earth shattering but this is what MSL just posted:

http://mistersaintlaurent.proboards.com … thread=346

On December 16, Guns N' Roses took the stage in Abu Dhabi to cap off the most recent leg of the never-ending Chinese Democracy World Tour.

On December 15, Guns N' Roses manager Doc McGhee was informed by members of the band that Tommy Stinson did not intend to take the stage.

And now, on February 2, those same band members find themselves uninformed, unpaid and searching for the same answers as the rabid GNR fanbase . . .

What is next for Guns N' Roses?

Answering that question is nearly impossible and Doc McGhee is just the latest in a long line of managers learning first hand that no matter what you have planned, at any point, W. Axl Rose may take his ball and go home.

While McGhee refused to comment for this story, documents recently received by mistersaintlaurent.com reveal a very thorough and dedicated plan to re-market Chinese Democracy in the US later this year.

A full North American arena tour and Best Buy exclusive reissue of Chinese Democracy would both launch on March 29. The tour would run through May 17 and hit 30 markets, including NY, LA, Vegas, Ft. Lauderdale, Boston, Detroit, Toronto, Indianapolis, Phoenix, Minneapolis, Atlanta, Tampa, Philly, DC, Denver, San Jose, Calgary, Winnipeg, Omaha and Houston.

The album reissue would contain new artwork and a second disc containing bonus material. In addition to remixes of tracks from the album, the bonus disc would contain a new song 'Blood In The Water' as well as a new version of 'Better' featuring DJ Ashba, which would serve as the radio single for the reissue.

All of this would be announced February 7, with a secret show the day before the Super Bowl (February 5) at The Lodge in Dallas. Yet, it's February 2 and those in the GNR camp that were willing to speak to mistersaintlaurent.com insist they have not received any airfare or itinerary.

While nobody would dispute that a very disappointed Axl Rose has holed himself up at home once again, most agreed he was justifiably upset.

"When we got back to the states, we expected Doc to have a US tour ready for us," said one member of Guns N' Roses that spoke with mistersaintlaurent.com. "When we found out things were still up in the air, everyone was deflated, but Axl took the news the worst," he continued.

But why is Doc McGhee having so much trouble finalizing a North American tour? Multiple sponsors have already signed on, including John Varvatos, Bloomingdales and Deleon Tequila. Companies such as Monster Energy and Harley-Davidson have had discussions with GNR as well about sponsoring a tour.

The answer may very well lie with Axl's previous manager, the mega powerful Irving Azoff. With Azoff controlling everything from venues to ticketing, many have accused Azoff of interfering with Doc's plan of attack for 2011.

So with the tour appearing to be off, where does that leave things with Best Buy? Although Best Buy had been burned by the first release of Chinese Democracy, they've pledged major funds to help market a reissue. Will they continue to be so supportive when clearly it is impossible for Guns N' Roses to reliably stick to any sort of plan.

And if and when the band returns, who will be playing bass? It wasn't that long ago that Duff McKagan appeared on stage with the band, a move that shocked fans throughout the world.

But what wasn't publically known at the time was that for years there have been internal discussions about canning Stinson due to problems with alcohol as well as his treatment of staff and crew. What role this played in Stinson threatening to not take the stage in Abu Dhabi is not known, but what is known is that as far back as 2008, Axl and other members of the band had many discussions about the pros and cons of a Duff return, a return Duff has privately expressed interest in repeatedly behind closed doors.

So what is next for Guns N' Roses? Unfortunately, not even Guns N' Roses itself knows the answer to that question.

But rest assured, this story is far from over.

Read more: http://mistersaintlaurent.proboards.com … z1Cm5rRsGf

#1354 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

Communist China wrote:

Will you guys just shut up until the 3rd is here and we've had nothing? No sense in discussing this, let alone slamming him, when his day isn't even here.

Well what are you doing in this thread then before the 3rd if you don't want to discuss it until then?

Not everyone shares your point of view and therefore some people here want to discuss it now and speculate.

#1355 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:
Aussie wrote:
Roderick wrote:

on the msl forum a guy who was having lunch with msl was making a thread where people can post questions for a Q&A with msl but now he posted this:


"While we were having lunch, Mister received a very significant financial offer that may change the timing of his plans. Stay tuned... "

Read more: http://mistersaintlaurent.proboards.com … z1CkQUQDVK

Here we go - now the timeframe for him dropping this stuff will be conveniently extended.  What a surprise, I didn't see that one coming.  So now this game can be extended even further.

This guy couldn't lie straight in bed and is so narcissistic it's pathetic.

u do realise u could have said the exact same words only in reference to axl?? to any countless number of strops & bad excuses??

that's what i mean when i say MSL n his ilk are a reflection of the band's own behaviour, especially w/regards the (mis)treatment of the fans. & how, in part, GnR/Axl bring this BS on themselves..

(tho that's ASSuming MSL actually has legit BS & not stupid BS)

Funny you say that because I thought something similar - the adjective narcissitic could easily have been used to describe Axl.

#1356 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

Roderick wrote:

on the msl forum a guy who was having lunch with msl was making a thread where people can post questions for a Q&A with msl but now he posted this:


"While we were having lunch, Mister received a very significant financial offer that may change the timing of his plans. Stay tuned... "

Read more: http://mistersaintlaurent.proboards.com … z1CkQUQDVK

Here we go - now the timeframe for him dropping this stuff will be conveniently extended.  What a surprise, I didn't see that one coming.  So now this game can be extended even further.

This guy couldn't lie straight in bed and is so narcissistic it's pathetic.

#1357 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

Oh I agree he was harmless in comparison to MSL.  But like MSL he appeared to get off on his little level of notoriety.

Cheers for that info sp1at - I never knew that.

#1358 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

It's funny that Mysteron is there saying things about msl. I don't think the 2 individuals are too dissimilar. MysterOn never told us shit beyond vague often cryptic comments. Whilst he remained anonomyous it still seemed he got off on the fact some people would hang on his every word.

#1359 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

Yeah I think he may have some sort of documentation that listed those songs but he doesn't actually have the physical tracks.

#1360 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 797 weeks ago

Not sure what MSL's game is, I mean if he is not part of some big marketing campaign in conjunction with GNR then he was always going to get the cops crawling all over him with this stunt. 

As much as I think GNR has been run like a joke for years and they have treated their fans like pond scum, Axl still has the right to release music when he wants and how he wants.  If he wants to make plans then cancel them, again that's his right.  Not sure I agree with this apparent "blackmail" and other stuff.  I would expect Axl to vehemently go after MSL for this.  So if the FBI really are calling him I'm not surprised.

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