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#1421 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
and for the Trump supporters here, do you think Michael Flynn, and Michael Cohen, received plea deals to avoid possible life in prison type sentences, for just this??
"Trump yelled at me" "Trumps mean".
Whats upcoming is probably what frightening Trump. He wants to end this all, but he can't. State courts are out of bounds for the president to touch. He's scared.
#1422 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
Trump Jr "didn't know what he was doing was illegal" so not held accountable. Lol, someone's gotta explain this one lol. I didn't KNOW it was treason 
#1423 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
Everything that you're asking if it's okay you've already said is okay by backing the democrats blindly.
Well, neither Hillary nor Obama ever said anything disparaging about McCain nor his service or time as a POW, so there's that. Also members of their campaign never setup & met with members of a foreign government to discuss illegally hacked emails on their opponent. So there's that too.
“The attorney general seemed almost to be acting as the counselor for the defense, or the counselor for the president,” “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace noted of Barr
- lol, when a member of Fox News admits this is a cron job, it's toast. I wish he was hosting tomorrow morning but being Easter Sunday, he likely won't be on air. Another setup by Barr having virtually no Sunday Morning Talk Shows on to discuss it. Conveniently planned. Guess it'll be easy-peasy for Trump on Monday as he planned, deny deny deny, and the stupid will believe.
#1424 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
If Mueller owns up & throws Barr under the bus its over. Barr completely spun this for Fox News.
#1425 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
He'll go down on obstruction charges.
He'll be impeached.
He'll be imprisoned for crimes in the SDNY.
#MuellerMay1st
Yet Republicans wanna re-vote for this guy 
#1426 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
It's not about Hillary, it's about you not understanding that you're supporting the same thing you're bitching about because it's all justified when your side does it.
There is zero chance Hillary would have run this shit of a Presidency. And the guy who spearheaded the birther movement now wqnts the Governments paper documentation proving incidents of obstruction to go away in the course of a 3 day weekend.
Silly, and the guy and his DBag kids are assholes. I hope they end up in prison along with Barr.
#1427 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:buzzsaw wrote:Here's the reason this is a problem, and by problem I mean a problem for you and not a problem for me. For months if not years I have been telling you nothing is going to come of this. We know Trump is a sleazeball. We know he fired people and others quit. A lot of them. We know a bunch of people got questioned and indicted on a bunch of different things not related to what the whole point of the investigation was supposed to be. All of that is bad and reflects poorly on Trump and the US. I don't think anyone here has denied any of that.
What's bad is for years you've been promising something was going to happen. It didn't. For years you've been promising collusion proof. There is none. For years you said this was all worth it. It wasn't. It told us stuff we already knew for the most part and the things we didn't know don't really matter. None of this accomplished anything, yet you guys still sit here today thinking there's more to come. There isn't. If there was, Mueller would have had a press conference or something would have leaked. You got the gist of it and it's nothing that you thought it was going to be. Maybe there's a detail here and there yet to be released, but it wouldn't change the overall context that Trump is sleazy and everyone knew it already. He didn't get elected because he's pure at heart. He didn't get elected to set a positive example. He got elected because he wasn't Hillary, and that alone was good enough for a lot of people, including many Democrats that didn't bother to show up after she stole the nomination from their golden boy Bernie. One voting base rallied and the other didn't. That's it. To this day, it doesn't seem that you even understand that much less why those things happened...and all that does is increase the odds of Trump winning again. You better hope the economy tanks hard because if it doesn't, I'm not sure things are looking any better for the near future...especially if creepy Joe is the knight on the white horse.
I'm glad you're stepping up & admitting Republicans will have no problem voting for someone who has lied to the American public on numerous occasions, as well as our judicial system. That's very brave of you to step up & admit this, you're a good man.
You voted for Clinton, so you're equally good using your logic. Well done I guess?
I'll give you that. Hillary was by no means flawless or transparent with Benghazi. Trump, however, has been in a maniac like way of consistently lying, from the firing of Comey, Mueller, Sessions, to meetings held with Russians, to a petty how many people attended his inauguration, to Cohens financial handlings, to paying $0 in taxes for decades.
Hillary had her issues, and ran by no means a great capaign, but for me, Trump became a non-contender the day he moronically said John McCain wasnt a war hero. Put aside the 4 bankruptcies, that right there took him out of contention. Unless, of course, you're desperate for anyone but a Democrat.
#1428 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
That’s a good point actually...they’re basically saying they’re willing to look past all of it...
Also, cursing profusely in public. When did that become a thing in our society's generally accepted standards. When W ran it was all about 'Family Values'. 2 Presidents later, mehhh who cares about that stuff. We Gotta Win!!
#1429 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
William Barr sounds like trumps lawyer not an AG.
He gave that press conference strictly for Fox News to grab sound bites from. Hannity radio played the entire thing to start his show off. Fox News only showed news clips of that, not investigating or reading snippets of the document. It was a total farce & setup. Plus the 3 day weekend news dump. Totally partisan move.
#1430 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago
Here's the reason this is a problem, and by problem I mean a problem for you and not a problem for me. For months if not years I have been telling you nothing is going to come of this. We know Trump is a sleazeball. We know he fired people and others quit. A lot of them. We know a bunch of people got questioned and indicted on a bunch of different things not related to what the whole point of the investigation was supposed to be. All of that is bad and reflects poorly on Trump and the US. I don't think anyone here has denied any of that.
What's bad is for years you've been promising something was going to happen. It didn't. For years you've been promising collusion proof. There is none. For years you said this was all worth it. It wasn't. It told us stuff we already knew for the most part and the things we didn't know don't really matter. None of this accomplished anything, yet you guys still sit here today thinking there's more to come. There isn't. If there was, Mueller would have had a press conference or something would have leaked. You got the gist of it and it's nothing that you thought it was going to be. Maybe there's a detail here and there yet to be released, but it wouldn't change the overall context that Trump is sleazy and everyone knew it already. He didn't get elected because he's pure at heart. He didn't get elected to set a positive example. He got elected because he wasn't Hillary, and that alone was good enough for a lot of people, including many Democrats that didn't bother to show up after she stole the nomination from their golden boy Bernie. One voting base rallied and the other didn't. That's it. To this day, it doesn't seem that you even understand that much less why those things happened...and all that does is increase the odds of Trump winning again. You better hope the economy tanks hard because if it doesn't, I'm not sure things are looking any better for the near future...especially if creepy Joe is the knight on the white horse.
I'm glad you're stepping up & admitting Republicans will have no problem voting for someone who has lied to the American public on numerous occasions, as well as our judicial system. That's very brave of you to step up & admit this, you're a good man.
